[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The ONLY way to look at it...
- From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "'showgsd'" <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <rautt75@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:41:52 -0800
Sorry for the weird sentence in the first post. Hit send before done...
Most of our pet puppies from our litters are not AKC Reg. either. Just can't
get some owners to
care. They want an outstanding puppy....all the History, and guarantees and
information...but
often do not bother with the AKC paperwork. These are great owners that do
their research and
homework because they want a "good quality" GSD that is sound and looks like
their 'vision and
acts like an intelligent German Shepherd Dog. They want 'the look' and
stability of the Breed
behind them....and they are always thrilled with how the general public
recognizes them as
"the most beautiful GSD" they've ever seen. It is not the AKC Reg. that
makes the quality.
We all know our Breed looks nothing like it did in the '30's' That is
mainly because of our
conformation breeders and competing...whether HERE or in any other Country. I
did not mean
the breed would "disappear"....I mean we will lose the GSD as we know it now.
Take
conformation out in ANY Country and the Breed as we know it will cease to
exist.
AND it won't take long! All those 1920 genes are still there....waiting to
surface again...
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com
From: edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx] To:
marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; rautt75@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: The ONLY way to look at it...or correctamundo!
Two points here, first it ain't the easiest thing in the world to get a puppy
from a conformation breeder for several reasons ( and that's okay) and point
number two, the overwhelming number of folks who breed and sell GSDs are NOT
involved in conformation! Yes I agree that most of these GSDs don't look
exactly like "our" dogs look, but make no mistake about it! They ARE GSDs, and
when and if conformation folks stop breeding dogs the GSD will continue!
Remember our Dog is number 2 in registrations, and that does not include the
thousands of GSDs ( like my son's dog) that aren't registered! Years ago when I
trained dogs with the San Jose Police k-9s ,of the 8 or 9 dogs on the force at
the time only one was AKC registered! And none were show quality! Our dog is
popular in several countries around the world! Our dog is BiGGER than us! You
all can believe what you want but this great breed is NOT going anywhere,
regardless of whether or not we keep breeding conformation dogs Ed Hill
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------ Original Message ------
From: Carolyn Martello
To: rautt75@xxxxxxxxx, freelist
Sent: February 23, 2015 at 4:09 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The ONLY way to look at it...or correctamundo!
Ann is 100% correctamundo on this post!!
That was my point in my first post on this subject.... and I believe this to be
the most
important fact in all these discussions when people complain about conformation
not
meaning anything anymore. ( mainly because THEY are not involved anymore!! )
<G>
THAT IS JUST NOT RIGHT......UNLESS .....
you do not care about the GSD as a Breed...let alone an ELITE AWESOME BREED!!!
When there are no more conformation breeders and shows......we LOSE THIS BREED!!
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com
On Behalf Of Anne Utter Subject: Re: Another way to look at it.
If the GSDCA breeders stop breeding, performance may go on. But there would be
no need of a standard anymore since everyone would just breed what they want to
breed.
No standard, no goal. Eventually, would the GSD even look like a GSD -
herding/working dog?? A proper structure and temperament, good health
genetics are needed and therefore a standard and the Breeders of quality GSDs
are needed. I always thought that the conformation shows were first
established to showcase the breeding stock (none are altered). It can't be
just a "pretty" show. But without Conformation shows, where would the GSD be
in a few years? JMO
Anne, GA
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On Feb 23, 2015, at 11:43 AM, Evan Ginsburg (Redacted sender "elg440@xxxxxxx"
for DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Tedi raised a good point, I had not thought about. Most of the breeding is
done by the conformation people. We provide the performance dogs, and few of
the performance exhibitors breed litters.
I am not sure what that means, or how it impacts entries, but if we
conformation people stop breeding litters, (which many have), were are the
puppies going to come from? I know when we get calls for puppies, we have
trouble finding anyone with litters in Southern California.
Evan
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