[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The Koehler Method of Guard Dog Training
- From: "Maureen" <murk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "freelist" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:51:43 -0500
Shelia,
I just don't see the need to get THAT harsh!!!!!!!!! Simply burying
chicken wire and sod over it should stop most any dog. Making the dog think
they were drowning is a tee tad more than..unpleasant way of expressing my
displeasure at certain behaviors! Mo
> SOMETIMES, all we have is negative input. If we cannot find a way to
> divert behavior we must make the behavior undesirable in its own right.
> No, drowning my dogs is not my FIRST choice, but if I can find no other
> way, I will use what I must. But this use of water in digging spots would
> be for the most chronic of diggers, and not for a first time offender.
>
> We must stop thinking that all negative input is bad, but it is to be used
> with the utmost care.
>
> A human can say waterboarding, our dogs can only say "oh no not me not
> again." and they can be sure it won't happen again, by behaving.
>
> My sons would not be the outstanding people they are if I had not had some
> sort of unpleasant way of expressing my displeasure at certain behaviors.
>
> I never use more than I must, but I don't shy away from harsh methods if
> that is all that will work. Ask Jeffrey. He had a hard time obeying me for
> a very long time. He is uninjured and un-scarred, but he is obedient to
> society enough to be a good citizen and disobedient enough to be aware of
> what laws are just plain dumb.
>
> At 17 we now have a great relationship. It has take all 17 years to get
> here. Brian on the other hand has needed little if any corrections ever.
> He was just a good kid to begin with. He has no experience with my harsher
> methods.
>
> Of dogs, I can say the same. No one get more than they need, but they
> don't get less either.
>
> sheila
>
> --- On Tue, 6/16/09, Edwin Hill <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> From: Edwin Hill <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] The Koehler Method of Guard Dog Training
> To: "freelist" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 1:16 PM
>
> The above is the first of three William Koehler books that I own, the
> other two are " The Koehler Method of Training Tracking Dogs" and " The
> Koehler Method of Open Obedience"...I got these books in the early
> 70's....and as a result of these books and a few others I am an EXCELLENT
> dog trainer.....some of Mr. Koehler's methods are questionable and I
> either modified them or used another method altogether....I have no doubt
> that ALL his methods work....but just because something works does not
> automatically make it a good idea.....I like my fourth graders to remain
> in their seats, and If I shackled them all to their desks, that would
> certainly work....dunking a dogs head under water.....well I can't swim,
> so you know what I think about that.....I'll tell you how I solve my
> diggers.....cement kennel runs....works every time...my next post will
> upset a few so I am warning you now!...Ed Hill
>
>
>
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