great post MYJOY SHEPHERDS Joyce Willis -----Original Message----- From: Hickoryhill <hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; edwinx <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wed, May 21, 2014 10:23 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The Good old days on the list athaleen and I have been friends for years, we didn't start off as friends, oth of us being of a competitive nature, but in time we came to discover that hether we agreed or disagreed, we were both passionate about what we believed. was happy when she called me and told me she had posted to the list! Couldn't ait to read it, even though within the first paragraph she had to disagree with e! LOL! One thing for certain that she and I agree on is that lowering xpectations never gets desired results. The "coffers" may not prosper, but the reed will prosper if the standard bar is kept high. I lay some blame at the oor of the AKC it is evident that they are losing money too.Used to be it took EARS for a breed to be recognized, now there is a new one nearly every week! lasses for mixed breeds in performance, and even talk of conformation classes or mixes. Smells desperate to me. Now think about this. What if the AKC decided hat before you could breed an AKC litter you had to prove some knowledge of your breed by either urchasing and finishing a champion/and or putting a performance title on a dog. o do so would at least demonstrate some working knowledge of your breed. What a reat marketing strategy it would be to be able to advertise that breeders of KC dogs have to demonstrate some knowledge of their breed. What if AKC decided hat after you had met the first criteria, then every so many years you had to ither breed a home bred champion/and or put a performance title on a dog of our breeding, thus proving that you are interested in continuing education. ake it MEAN something to be a breeder of AKC animals. Sure, there would be many ho would defect to other registries, but the AKC would be left with those who ruly care about their individual breeds. What a great thing that would be to arket to the public! This is how I feel about the GSDCA, you want members back? aise the standard bar, you might loose some who don't really care, but you might gain ack a few who really do care and have demonstrated a knowledge of the breed, I gree with Kathaleen, many of the pictures I see on FB are poor at best. As good reeders keep defecting, and the numbers it takes for majors keep plummeting, any dogs will finish that would not have gotten a sniff of a placement ribbon 0 years ago>Although I may not be a GSDCA member anymore, I always felt that a SDCA board members, were voted in to be in many ways a guardian of the breed; eople who would look after the breed's best interest and to ensure that when our time in the sport was over, that you had left the breed in good hands for he next generation of exhibitors. I think the pulse of the current membership s that they do not perceive, that the proposals being made by the Board are in he breeds best interest and that the Board does not have the breed's best nterest at heart. Ture or not perception is everything! Christine ------------------------------------------- n Wed, 5/21/14, edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] The Good old days on the list To: "showgsd-l" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wednesday, May 21, 2014, 3:25 PM When I first joined this list there were some folks who I respected, not so much for what they believed , but because they SAID what they believed..and they had a track record in this sport.....whether it was popular or not, you knew where they stood. Probably why I get along with Basu as well as I do.....Kathaleen Strong has been missed on this list!....She and a few others call it like they see it!. We now have folks who talk standard and breed change and the "old" days...and they're produced NOTHING!!!!...past or present...and folks continue to respond to them....awhile back some one referred to them as "trolls".....we have lots of trolls on the list now......and I respect Kathaleen"s views on the events of when she was a board member, I was upset when she resigned....agree with her or not, you know where she stands...her last name fits her personality.....tell me who's running for board and I will tell you the winners before the election.......I promised not to us e the "L" word again.....but you get the picture...or maybe you don't, and perhaps that's the problem!...good to see you back Ms. STRONG!...Ed Hill ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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