Stormy- The problem is that most judges pay lip service to the "loose lead" term and allow the dogs to be shown on a tight lead and at a breakneck speed. If a handler slows down and gives a loose lead under the"lipservice" judges they do not win. Unfortunately, only about one out of five judges actually means "slow, loose lead" when he asks for it in the ring. And as Randy and BadBob stated before me, it coats assignments to be in the minority. I feel privileged and proud to be in that minority. D.D. P.S. The handlers are not defying the judge when they do not give him a loose lead(lip service judges) but they will give the judges who mean it a loose lead when asked. They know who is sincere and who is not. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Stormy435@xxxxxxx> To: <RChesnut70502@xxxxxxx>; <LEWIEB@xxxxxxx> Cc: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 9:30 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The Gait in the Ring > And the judge says Loose Leads! , and the dogs still keep racing around > strung up, and the judge STILL rewards it. Still happening, no matter how long > this has been a subject of conversation. :-( > Stormy > > In a message dated 8/13/05 8:26:57 PM, RChesnut70502@xxxxxxx writes: > > > > > > In a message dated 8/13/05 9:14:55 PM Central Daylight Time, LEWIEB@xxxxxxx > > writes: > > > > However, those dogs who are faulty and have to race around the ring while > > being held up by a handler and his leash would probably not be able to work > > sheep > > properly or do Agility or work as a Service Dog or work a 1000 yard Track > > or > > ....... > > > > > > > > Why would any judge allow a dog to be shown on a tight leash, much less be > > held up by a handler is beyond me! > > > > Randy Chesnut > > > > > > > > *^*\/\/\/\/*^**^*\/\/\/\/*^**^*\/\/\/\/*^* > Dog's love is different, it requires no return > www.FairhopeGSD.com > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================