Norma, we all love you (I sure do), but we have a large disagreement there. The reason there are so many animals in the shelter is that PEOPLE put them there. They get tired of them, they don't take the time to properly housebreak the, they are unmannerly and jump on visitors, they get a new puppy. etc., etc., etc. The reason that the dog farms started is because we listened so hard to those who said we were overpopulating, and started requiring S/N in our contracts. There was a need for MORE dogs, so the Dog Farms started and supplied them. Then the PEOPLE .....etc., etc. Now the smuggling, the huge imports of thousands of pups begins to fill the desire of PEOPLE who want puppies. Then the PEOPLE....etc., etc. Castrating (and that term CAN be used for both sexes) a puppy at 16 weeks leads to incontinence (trip to the pound), long, immature bodies on larger dogs, ACLs (just shown to tbe the case by an AVMA journal article (December, 2007)), and on and on. Check NAIA and find out the REAL problems caused by early s/n. Do I disagree that dogs should be neutered, WHEN the owner wants them to be? OF course not. I've got two spayed bitches, and considering the third. Older than 16 weeks for SURE!!!! To keep dogs out of the pound (And that, despite the AR line, decreases yearly), we need more PEOPLE who care and decide that, as the other thread this morning showed, no matter WHAT, their dogs are their dogs for life. My two cents... Stormy In a message dated 2/9/08 12:28:20 PM, gsdramey@xxxxxxx writes: > This, in and of > itself being neglected in an incorrect manner, is what IMHO causes a lot of > animals ending in a shelter because they > weren't supposed to have been born to begin with anyway. Not that it is > always a health matter, but a practical one. > "You may never know what results come from your action. But if you do nothing, there will be no result." Mahatma Gandhi Stormy Hope *~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~* Dog's love is different, it requires no return www.FairhopeGSD.www ************** Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================