[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: The 38 dogs, and a conversation with Charlene Marchand

  • From: Ileana <inquestgsd@xxxxxxx>
  • To: "rockylizard@xxxxxxxxx" <rockylizard@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 10:49:14 -0500

This is the same experience my brother had when he happily offered to adopt 2 
adult dogs that "had" to be adopted together. We have never had food available 
(as in free feed) to any dog, regardless of the breed. Ever. My brother works, 
but my sister inlaw is a stay at home mom. She does volunteers at the kids 
school 2 days a week. Not acceptable. The dogs HAD to have human companion 
24/7. BS. My dogs are home alone part of the day. You know what they do?? 
Sleep. 

Then they wanted to talk to his former vet. Previous dog (a Rottie) was dead at 
the age of 14. They wanted to know why.  Really?  Have you people ever heard of 
many Rotties living to 14?  He died of old age and a weak heart. And my brother 
was with him when the vet put him down, humanely.  

Then they wanted to know about his income. Could he afford 2 dogs?
Then, the house and yard inspection form. I guess some used to work in homeland 
security. Include in that the "suggestion" of alarm system, and recommendation 
for fire alarm. Yup, you heard that right.  And they would measure the fence, 
for sturdiness.  

Needless to say, my little bro told them to kiss off. 

I understand concern, but some of these group have absolutely no awareness or 
common sense. 

The dogs missed out on a great home, a vacation home, great pet sitter. Mobile 
groomer. Vacations. And a family to love them. They are still waiting to be 
adopted together. I am sure living in that shelter is a better option, sarcasm 
intended. 

I hope these dogs find homes, and the woman gets help. 

Ileana

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> On Feb 11, 2014, at 9:46 AM, "Liz" <rockylizard@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> I have a big problem with the "adoption application" that this organization 
> makes you fill out. How many pets? Jeez, I have a farm! Are they counting 
> farm animals? What about my show rabbits...do they count as pets, or as farm 
> animals? (IMO They're kinda halfway in between.) And they want to know the 
> history of every pet anyone in the household has ever owned, and what 
> happened to it. My daughters have both had pet rats for most of their lives, 
> and yes, they've all died. Not because of any lack of care, but because rats 
> just don't have that long of a lifespan! 
> 
> They want to talk to every vet any of us have ever used, which especially in 
> my case is ridiculous because I've lived in this state less than 2 years, and 
> the vets that I used for years are 1200 miles away from here and I haven't 
> seen them for almost 2 years.
> 
> They want the death dates of all pets who have ever died, and their causes of 
> death. If you've ever owned a pet that is no longer in your house, they want 
> to know why and what happened to it. (Does it count that I sold my cockatiels 
> and emu before we moved...??? Yes, SOLD. *gasp* I didn't think it would be 
> very kind to drag the birds 1200 miles in triple digit temperatures. So I 
> sold them.)
> 
> They want to know if you have allergies, and what kind. (Are you joking? I am 
> allergic to cats, dogs, and horses, among other things...but I have 2 house 
> dogs and 2 horses and it doesn't bother me! Do I want to share  my medical 
> history with these people? I realize they're asking about pet allergies but I 
> either lie and say NO or I say "yep I've tested positive for an allergy to 
> dog dander..." And then what?)
> 
> And...the real kicker, and the real reason I won't ever be approved even if I 
> bothered to fill out their invasive application, is I have two intact 
> livestock guardian dogs who are outside keeping the coyotes, feral dogs, and 
> bobcats off my sheep, 24/7. Yes, they have access to shelter, of course they 
> do. Do they use it? Not often. They don't have access to water 100% of the 
> time, we've had a cold snap recently and the water has been freezing. Of 
> course I go break the ice and give them fresh water frequently, but like the 
> rest of my livestock, there are periods of time in sub-freezing weather that 
> they don't have water. They get fed once a day, so they don't have access to 
> food all the time, either. They aren't fixed, and I don't have any intention 
> of fixing them, because coyotes and feral dogs don't find neutered dog
> "marking" impressive at all. My dogs will fight if they have to, but I don't 
> WANT them to fight, I want the coyotes to smell their territory markings and 
> realize "jeez there's a 120+ pound Big Daddy Dawg here, maybe I'd better go 
> someplace else!"
> 
> I also have a huge problem with early spay and neuter. IMO, dogs should NOT 
> be fixed until they are completely adult, as in completely done growing and 
> filling out. I don't know a single shelter or rescue that is okay with 
> adopting out even a young dog, like 6 months old, that hasn't been fixed.
> 
> So between my inside dogs (my two pet German shepherds) and my outside dogs 
> guarding my sheep, they'll see I have 4 big dogs (two of them are huge, 
> actually) and that two of them are intact and outside 100% of the time, and 
> I'm positive my application will go in the DO NOT APPROVE EVER list.
> 
> So...while I am grateful for rescues and shelters and what they do, I don't 
> see myself ever being allowed to adopt a rescue dog.
> 
> We are starting the search for a German shepherd puppy to add to our home 
> this year, but I don't think it'll be a from a rescue or a shelter... :P
> 
> JMO....
> 
> Liz in OK (formerly known as Liz in UT)
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Msg: #7 in digest
> From: "Rbuffdogs ." <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 19:19:41 -0800
> Subject: The 38 dogs, and a conversation with Charlene Marchand
> 
> THIRTY NINE GSDS..NEW YORK FEB 9, 2014
> I had a long conversation with Charlene Marchand, who is right in the middle 
> of the dogs , 39 rescued in NY. She is AN EXHIBITOR, A PARENT CLUB MEMBER, A 
> BREEDER.....this is a small no kill, breeder -friendly shelter.
> Regarding the GSDs rescued on 9 Feb.. This is NOT a case of Animal Control on 
> a rampage...NOT....
>  Authorities received complaints about the residence..apparently valid.
> See video 
> http://www.news10.com/story/24681996/animals-in-durham-found-in-poor-condition
>  terrible.
> ALL DOGS SURRENDERED BY OWNER WHO IS CURRENTLY IN CUSTODY. REPEAT OWNER
> SURRENDERED DOGS.   Owner doing business Dawn Jagr aka Dawn Verdesch  Some 
> dogs dehydrated in need of IV, all very thirsty, etc. Many of us in
> the fancy know the owner / breeder, and our hearts must go out to her. This 
> could happen to almost anyone. (Please if you need help contact the fellow 
> GSD fanciers or the Parent Club!!) Reaching out can often stop escalation in 
> such cases..any of us at any time might need a bit of help.
> The shelter is NOT adopting out dogs to just anyone..they want GSD 
> people,first , if possible The dogs all exhibit excellent temperament and 
> character and all are doing well.  This is a non prof , shelter...NO KILL... 
> they could use some help , not only monetarily, but in getting dogs to real 
> dog people,  esp GSD  people. DONATIONS FOR CARE SINCERELY APPRECIATED. If you
> would like to adopt (there are mostly bitches) please contact the shelter, 
> and attn: Charlene Marchand.
> 
> *Kathy*
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