Be glad they didn't ask for you SS# to run a credit report....some do that now. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/ In a message dated 2/11/2014 9:47:22 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, rockylizard@xxxxxxxxx writes: I have a big problem with the "adoption application" that this organization makes you fill out. How many pets? Jeez, I have a farm! Are they counting farm animals? What about my show rabbits...do they count as pets, or as farm animals? (IMO They're kinda halfway in between.) And they want to know the history of every pet anyone in the household has ever owned, and what happened to it. My daughters have both had pet rats for most of their lives, and yes, they've all died. Not because of any lack of care, but because rats just don't have that long of a lifespan! They want to talk to every vet any of us have ever used, which especially in my case is ridiculous because I've lived in this state less than 2 years, and the vets that I used for years are 1200 miles away from here and I haven't seen them for almost 2 years. They want the death dates of all pets who have ever died, and their causes of death. If you've ever owned a pet that is no longer in your house, they want to know why and what happened to it. (Does it count that I sold my cockatiels and emu before we moved...??? Yes, SOLD. *gasp* I didn't think it would be very kind to drag the birds 1200 miles in triple digit temperatures. So I sold them.) They want to know if you have allergies, and what kind. (Are you joking? I am allergic to cats, dogs, and horses, among other things...but I have 2 house dogs and 2 horses and it doesn't bother me! Do I want to share my medical history with these people? I realize they're asking about pet allergies but I either lie and say NO or I say "yep I've tested positive for an allergy to dog dander..." And then what?) And...the real kicker, and the real reason I won't ever be approved even if I bothered to fill out their invasive application, is I have two intact livestock guardian dogs who are outside keeping the coyotes, feral dogs, and bobcats off my sheep, 24/7. Yes, they have access to shelter, of course they do. Do they use it? Not often. They don't have access to water 100% of the time, we've had a cold snap recently and the water has been freezing. Of course I go break the ice and give them fresh water frequently, but like the rest of my livestock, there are periods of time in sub-freezing weather that they don't have water. They get fed once a day, so they don't have access to food all the time, either. They aren't fixed, and I don't have any intention of fixing them, because coyotes and feral dogs don't find neutered dog "marking" impressive at all. My dogs will fight if they have to, but I don't WANT them to fight, I want the coyotes to smell their territory markings and realize "jeez there's a 120+ pound Big Daddy Dawg here, maybe I'd better go someplace else!" I also have a huge problem with early spay and neuter. IMO, dogs should NOT be fixed until they are completely adult, as in completely done growing and filling out. I don't know a single shelter or rescue that is okay with adopting out even a young dog, like 6 months old, that hasn't been fixed. So between my inside dogs (my two pet German shepherds) and my outside dogs guarding my sheep, they'll see I have 4 big dogs (two of them are huge, actually) and that two of them are intact and outside 100% of the time, and I'm positive my application will go in the DO NOT APPROVE EVER list. So...while I am grateful for rescues and shelters and what they do, I don't see myself ever being allowed to adopt a rescue dog. We are starting the search for a German shepherd puppy to add to our home this year, but I don't think it'll be a from a rescue or a shelter... :P JMO.... Liz in OK (formerly known as Liz in UT) ------------------------------ Msg: #7 in digest From: "Rbuffdogs ." <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 19:19:41 -0800 Subject: The 38 dogs, and a conversation with Charlene Marchand THIRTY NINE GSDS..NEW YORK FEB 9, 2014 I had a long conversation with Charlene Marchand, who is right in the middle of the dogs , 39 rescued in NY. She is AN EXHIBITOR, A PARENT CLUB MEMBER, A BREEDER.....this is a small no kill, breeder -friendly shelter. Regarding the GSDs rescued on 9 Feb.. This is NOT a case of Animal Control on a rampage...NOT.... Authorities received complaints about the residence..apparently valid. See video http://www.news10.com/story/24681996/animals-in-durham-found-in-poor-conditi on terrible. ALL DOGS SURRENDERED BY OWNER WHO IS CURRENTLY IN CUSTODY. REPEAT OWNER SURRENDERED DOGS. Owner doing business Dawn Jagr aka Dawn Verdesch Some dogs dehydrated in need of IV, all very thirsty, etc. Many of us in the fancy know the owner / breeder, and our hearts must go out to her. This could happen to almost anyone. (Please if you need help contact the fellow GSD fanciers or the Parent Club!!) Reaching out can often stop escalation in such cases..any of us at any time might need a bit of help. The shelter is NOT adopting out dogs to just anyone..they want GSD people, first , if possible The dogs all exhibit excellent temperament and character and all are doing well. This is a non prof , shelter...NO KILL... they could use some help , not only monetarily, but in getting dogs to real dog people, esp GSD people. DONATIONS FOR CARE SINCERELY APPRECIATED. If you would like to adopt (there are mostly bitches) please contact the shelter, and attn: Charlene Marchand. *Kathy* *"Victory...*Vires et honestas" ------------------------------ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. 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