In reading , ankylosis is at the end or the tip. This is up close to the croup or the root. Interesting though, ankylosis and spondylosis are mentioned together in much literature. My poor spell checker needs an update. Thumbing through the dictionary now. Joan F. Fox visit our website at: http://campaignergsds.netfirms.com -------Original Message------- From: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: 11/11/04 09:01:10 To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; campaigners@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [Showgsd-l Freelists] Re: Testing and Tails In a message dated 11/11/2004 7:50:37 AM Central Standard Time, campaigners@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes: have found that in some of these about 1/3 of the way down from the top that they have an enlarged area you can feel and these dogs carry the tail normally until that area and then it falls down or is carried to the side. Any ideas? Ankaylosis(sp) I would think. Tails are the second thing I check-For males,it' the 3 T's-Teeth,Tail & Testicles-then the Gait(movement) and Soundness--- Helen POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the Poster and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original poster AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For administrative problems, email problems and technical support, please contact the List Administrators at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx, in private. Please do not post individual problem issues on Showgsd-l VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the Poster and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original poster AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For administrative problems, email problems and technical support, please contact the List Administrators at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx, in private. Please do not post individual problem issues on Showgsd-l VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org