I bet Bob Penny is turning over in his grave! There are very specific rules and standards - a dog either passes or not, not passes if this or fails if that. If those actions were as described, that evaluator needs to be removed NOW. Ruth ALL4MORIAH@xxxxxxx wrote: Ileana That's kind of like AKC saying we don't need anymore judges. Club's should be able to hire whoever they want. I do think the program needs some work. I was asked half way through my exercise who the breeder was of my dog. When I told him , he said , Oh I know her and her mother. I felt a little compromised after that. I felt that my bitch did very well during the test except for the umbrella. She took a little longer to come around than I would have liked, but was steady on everything else. Then at the end he said my score was marginal and did I plan to breed this bitch. I said I hope to someday, to early to tell, she's only 14 months. He said "then I will fail her". If I had promised to spay her he would pass her. He thought she needed a harder temperament to be in a GSD breeding program. I said I understood where he was coming from, but the more I thought about it, the more I was bothered. I almost loaded up and drove home. This bitch just passed the Herding instinct test with flying colors, with a stranger working her. She is sweet, willing to please and learns new things very fast. She prelims excellent. I decided, this is One man's opinion. IF she does turn out to be what I want, I will certainly breed her. There is a lot of worse things out there to worry about than a bitch that leans up against a stranger to be petted. Maybe this test should be run like CGC with a different evaluator at each post. This was my first time and didn't really know what was expected of me or the dog. Some said they were told to keep the dog in close and some said total lose lead. I heard one evaluator tell the entrant to go fast over the tarp and x pen , the next one had to do it over because she went to fast. I wasn't told at all. So just in my opinion the program needs some fine tuning. However I do think it IS a good program and certainly has it's merits. JMO Judi ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================