I have come up with a numerical system for GSD temperament. It goes (like most do) from one to ten. In my system, 1 is a total spook, and 10 is totally fearless.. Numbers 1 and 2 are born shy, and will never be salvageable for showing. These are the dogs that climb the walls to get away from strangers, or worse, when cornered, bite. Three, four, and five, are shy, but will just wilt when strangers come, hide behind the owner, but are not hysterical or fear-biters. Sixes and sevens are "soft", but with proper socialization, can be good showdogs, pets, and working dogs. Eights and nines are born sound, stay sound no matter how neglected they are. They are the ones that you can keep in a kennel for years, and when you take them out, they act like they have been out all their lives. Totally sound. Tens are the sharp, proud, fearless, and often dangerous ones. They have no respect for authority, and can be very aggressive, but not from fear. From a sense of power and invulnerability. These are the dogs that need a very strong knowledgeable handler. I have never had a one or a two, but I have had a 10, and had to put him down. Returned to me, and was too much dog for the owners or myself. I still cry over Mufasa. Syd Syd Mailberg 425-432-4144 23910 SE 276th St Maple Valley, Wa. 98038 It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it. www.kingswoodgermanshepherds.homestead.com Syd Mailberg 425-432-4144 23910 SE 276th St Maple Valley, Wa. 98038 It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it. www.kingswoodgermanshepherds.homestead.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================