Tell that to Quazar, sired by a litter mate to a BIS Ch, who had more captures in 8 months than the rest of the department's dogs combined in the full year. Tell that to Lars, an avalanche dog sired by GV Max. Tell that to a youngster sired by Rogue who is now SAR certified. and the list goes on and on. The breed has a range of temperament that is suited to the range of uses for the breed. The very hard, high drive BSP winner may not do well tending sheep, nor as a service dog for an autistic child. Some people think that SchH titles are the only way to evaluate the "working" potential and character of a dog. They have not seen a SchH3 dog turn tail and hunt for someone with a sleeve when attacked by a dog-wise ewe with lambs. Nor have they seen a SchH3 dog fail the GSDCA temperament test as it was different from what was expected. Not all show dogs are "nervy" and not all SchH titled dogs are sound. "CORRECT" is somewhere within the acceptable range and the test score should be of use to determine what that dog is suited for if within the acceptable range. Ruth ________________________________ From: Jackie Short <marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx> To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 1:17:50 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Temperament Test (and Committee)- LONG *Showlines or European working lines? Please explain to me how THAT relates to the Temperament Test?* Just hazarding a guess, but I wager he means that the temperaments are too soft/dogs are too nervy in the majority of showlines (american and euro both) to be of any use to most departments or trainers that want their dogs to do real work (SAR, narcotics, patrol, etc) -- Jackie Marcato Shepherds Where beauty is found in function http://www.jackieshort.com ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================