Does anyone have the ORIGINAL post that created this... i have some insight to share about contracts and our responsibility thx In a message dated 1/16/2011 2:16:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, Kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx writes: but, stormy, you acted as any responsible breeder would and should and you took the risk. anyone with the "out of sight, out of mind" ... "not MY responsibility anymore" attitude should not be breeding dogs. perhaps they can find a new hobby that involves inanimate objects. diane Diane Silver-Strasser Silstra German Shepherds _Skatiebug'z_ (http://skatiebugz.shutterfly.com/) The online store for everything German Shepherd and then some! _http://skatiebugz.blogspot.com_ (http://skatiebugz.blogspot.com/) Skater's Blog In a message dated 1/16/2011 11:13:02 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, Stormy435@xxxxxxx writes: I'll just add a scary note here. I have very few dogs of my breeding out there, but if necessary, I would still try to get them back or try for a good new home.... BUT.... you all need to be warned that there HAVE been cases that AC has come in to houses with over-limit dogs, seized ALL the dogs, found a piece of lint here and there, an empty dog dish, some hair in the water, (O.k>, but not MUCH of an exaggeration), took the owners to court and the court found them to be abusive owners and ordered them to never own another dog. Think I'm kidding and it could never happen??? If you read as many of these cases as I do, you would know it DOES happen and not that infrequently. So every time I was breaking that particular law, I had to understand what a risk I could be taking. Just saying..... Stormy Hope On Jan 16, 2011, at 9:50 AM, edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: I love your story and I'm glad you're sticking to it.....but I see it differently and I will continue to do as I always have...when a dog leaves my house my responsibility ends...I'll do what I can to help IF POSSIBLE.....I don't carry the burdens and problems of other people...got far too many of my own...Ed Hill ----- Original Message ----- From: "James and Gail Wells" <Thirty55@xxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 11:30:18 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: showgsd-l Digest V5 #91 Msg #1 I have got to say that in my opinion anyone breeding a litter needs to take responsibility for that litter. You owe it to the puppies as it was your choice to bring them into this world. If you can't take them back then you need to do everything you can to help them. I would like to believe that we all do the best we can to find good homes and I know that sometimes "stuff" happens but if you are not willing to take responsibility for them don't breed your bitch. We have a clause in our contract that states if for any reason they cannot or will not keep the dog he or she is to be returned to us. It is plain and simple - we brought them into this world and we feel an obligation to make sure that they are treated properly and placed in a good home. Before anyone mentions that there is a limit on the number of dogs they are allowed to have let me say that we are only allowed to have 3 but I am perfectly willing to break the law until I can find a suitable place for any dog that I have bred. To say you are responsible for the dogs in your home period is fine if you are not bringing more of them into the world and selling them to other people. If that's the way you feel then don't bring anymore puppies into this world. 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