If we want more tests and want to encourage good and consistent tests, we need to have a good open program. We need to train and evaluate the evaluators and we need to make them available to clubs for educational programs about the temperament testing program. This is a very important program in this club and we need to strengthen it and encourage clubs to offer tests. Ruth --- On Wed, 10/15/08, InquestGSD@xxxxxxx <InquestGSD@xxxxxxx> wrote: From: InquestGSD@xxxxxxx <InquestGSD@xxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: TT evaluators To: TISHW@xxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, hardcastle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 6:43 PM Dear Tish I hate to break it to you, but I approached Jim York (more than once) for info to become an evaluator and his response was "I don't need anymore evaluators".......which surprised me, considering the amount of clamor for more Temperament Test thru out the nation. And no, I wasn't the only one. You have to be a lucky one to get into that group. Check out the archives for The List at the beginning of this year. There was a very lively discussion regarding this same topic. Thank God for archives, as memories are sometimes short lived <G>. It is a mystery how many evaluators are active, how many more SHOULD be working, what's the process to become an evaluator, how you can become an apprentice, how long it takes to finish your training.....all a mystery. I know, I've asked numerous times, and never got a response. We have heard from many members who would LOVE to assist in this committee, but the doors are always closed. Kind of discouraging, don't you think? I would like to know who are the current evaluators, and their credentials, as they are trusted to evaluate our breed on something as important as temperament. I remember the late's Bob Penny and Dick Whalen, they were awesome evaluators. Also Peggy Douglas, watched her in action and was very impressed with her procedure. I believe Jim York is also an evaluator, and I have no idea of his history. I am sure many others don't either, as it is impossible for us to know everyone in the breed. So that's 2 evaluators, maybe. I stand strong on my believe that evaluators should NOT be asking for dogs pedigree information when conducting an evaluation. I don't think the temperament test is the place for that kind of interrogation/exchange. This Committee may want to seriously consider a little more openness with the membership. Maybe you and Gail can look into this after the National. JMO Ileana ****************************************************************************** ****** _Kmgraphic2@xxxxxxxx (mailto:Kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx) writes: In a message dated 10/15/08 1:12:05 PM Pacific Daylight Time, rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx writes: It would help if tte GSDCA allowed more than just an extremely limited number of evaluators. absolutely! gail? board members????? Diane Strasser I think that there are a few people who are still apprenticing to become evaluators. I'm not sure what all one has to do to become an evaluator but I do know you can't just say you want to be one and then you are one. Jim York has taken over for Bob Penny so I would suggest talking to him at the National about getting more evaluators into the program. Tish **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 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