A dog that attempted to bite the judge would be disqualified (disbarred, kicked out, etc) according to AKC dog show rules. I knew a beautiful herding champion who was also a breed champion who had an ear down due to an aural hematoma....and yes, according to the January 2012 board vote, she would be eligible for a performance Victrix award. A dog with a DQ ear, or docked tail, or blue/liver nose or white color, or underbite COULD win a performance victor/Victrix award if it gives the best performance of its sport. Again, the board voted on this in January 2012. The board has gotten a lot of feedback from both the membership and committee members, so they made the decision to send this controversial decision and others to the membership for a vote so the membership gets a DIRECT say in how the awards for the club will work....not just the boards collective decision or the opinions of 3-4 committee chairs. The committee chairs serve by request of the president and the board. They are appointed by the board (requested by the president), not the membership. The committee chairs then send a list of who they would like on their individual committees to the board who again approves (or not). Again, a board decision. The membership votes on who is on the board looking after their individual interests. Just like the good ol' USA, sometimes our people get "in" and sometimes they don't :-(. But in the GSDCA, you only get to vote if you're a member..... Julie Degen Sent from my iPad "A well-balanced German Shepherd has a title on both ends!" www.caissonkennels.com On Aug 17, 2013, at 2:48 PM, "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > SO technically a dog with down ears or a dog that attempted to > bite a judge could win these high awards at our NATIONAL? > > Did those Performance Chairs or the people who developed > these Prestigious Awards agree to this? > > Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > www.marhaven.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: On Behalf Of EJDegen@xxxxxxx Sent: To: hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx; > THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE/QUESTIONS ABOUT OV/OVX TITLE > > You will have an opportunity to vote for this in the upcoming GSDCA > election. Because there have been many strong feelings about "who should > be > eligible" to compete for the performance victor/victrix awards, all members > > will have the opportunity to voice their opinion through their votes in this > > election. > > In January 2012, the board voted to allow dogs with DQ conformation faults > to be eligible to win the performance victor/victrix awards. The national > premiums didn't state that last year (2012). They do this year. > > Next year, it will be whatever the GSDCA membership decides they want, so > if you care, VOTE. > > Julie Degen > > > In a message dated 8/17/2013 12:57:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes: > > > > Maybe this has been addressed, and I missed it, so forgive me if I am being > redundant.I reviewed the requirements on the GSDCA site for the > "prestigious title" of obed. Vic./Vtx. My question is this, as it stands in > order for > a dog to earn this title a it can have NO disqualifying faults as > described in the standard and this has to verified by an AKC judge. someone > correct > me if I am wrong, but I think I remember when at least a "reserve win" was > part of the requirement for this title, but that was removed awhile back > and changed to the judge verification. So its obvious that the requirements > > for the award can be changed. So why not simply change the requirements for > > the title, allowing whites to compete? One could argue, why stop with > white dogs, simply change the language to let ALL dogs with DQ's compete > for > the title. To me a DQ is a DQ, doesn't matter if the dog has one testicle( > at > one time that was acceptable in the conformation r ing), and undershot > jaw, hanging ears( and I know a couple of those that are currently being > bred)or a docked tail. If the argument is that "the change is only so that > white > dogs can compete in performance venues," then simply changing the language > for that event should NOT ONLY satisfy the white dog breeders but ALL who > want to compete in performance. The DQ status would not be changed, and the > > standard would remain the same. I personally don't think the requirements > should change at all, as I believe that if a award is considered > "prestigious" then the best possible example of the breed should represent > it. > Christine > > ============ > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. 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