I hear you Chis. I think back to the dwindling number of dogs during the WWs. Guardians of the breed during those days did not look for ways to drive up entries and participation by dumb-ing down the standard. Some of those early greats would be rolling over in their graves. I cringe to think of what our peers in the AB works will say/think. And you know, they will be justified in their criticism. I can't/won't defend it. I don't see other breeds (goldens, labs, rotties) selling out their standards for entries. And guess what??? Their entries are UP in this ecomomy. So far this board has moved to allow dogs w/ DQs to be awarded our highest performance awards (after receiving petitions, letters, phone calls etc.), and now a fault class...all with the excuse of entry $$$$$. Prostitutes. Pimping the standard. I am beyond disgusted. The job of our board is not to make money, it is to behave as guardians of the breed. If the club gets smaller, so be it. I probably spend 5-8 hours a week on the phone w/ prospective puppy buyers, referring them to our PC web site, regional clubs, BC signers etc. I am constantly beating the "read our standard", "find breeders who breed TO the standard", "there is a reason breeds have a written standard, GSDs are not supposed to be "panda"/140 lbs./"Kings" etc. etc. etc....please go to the library, research the breed I tell people, over and over and over and OVER again. So what do we do as a club? Reward DQs in performance and long coats w/ their own breed class at the national. I'm not arguing, I am just sick. It just defies all logic. I agree with you about the potential success of the class BTW. It will be a bust. Who in their right mind will haul a dog any distance to the national, pay a handler to be dismissed in winners???? That doesn't change the fact that some are selling out the standard they are SUPPOSED to guard for entries. I understand one of our board members said "we are a movement breed" on the call. NO we are not. We are a utilitarian working breed, a balanced functional dog. Yes, we are supposed to have efficiency of movement, but a GSD is so much more than that! If it's all about movement let's just throw out the standard w/ all of the DQs and faults listed, since they (color, hanging ears, docked tails, missing teeth, soft ears etc. etc. etc.) don't impact movement anyway. I give up. I really AM at the "I don't care" point. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 6/29/2012 4:29:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tanbarkgsd@xxxxxxxxx writes: Hi Kathy I always respect your opinion, most of the time agree with it, this time I have to agree to disagree. I understand that the coat is considered a fault, but I do not think the board is violating the standard by offering this class. The winner still has to come back in to be considered for the points, so it is still up to the judge to consider the fault serious enough against the others competing to award the points to the coat or not. Now, I do not truly believe there will be such an increase in breeding for coats just because one class is offered at the National. I seriously doubt it will have that kind of impact. It might encourage some of the owners with truly nice animals to enter them, who knows? I truly see both sides of this, especially the remarks about needing "fault classes" for each fault. Common sense would say of course not! How this came all about I'm not sure, have not discussed it with anyone, but wonder if the SV allowing the coats now led to this line of thinking. That is just a speculation though! My guess is that more than likely this will not be a hugely successful program, and just go away on its own. I am merely saying there are bigger issues at hand and that I would rather have a board that is open to ideas and progression than a closed minded "can't do that it's never been done before" board. Respectfully Chris Chris S. (Jolley) Kimerer _http://www.tanbarkgsd.com/_ (http://www.tanbarkgsd.com/) GrCh. Tanbark's 2MuchBling Joelle Aramist OFA H/E GrCh. Trotwood's Emerald v Tanbark Joelle Aramist AOE Sel.Ex.Ch.Carousel Farms Samantha, PT, TC OFA H/E Ch. CaralonQED JD Drew Bleibtreu, RN OFA H/E Ch. Cresther's Blast of Kenlyn, HI, CDX, OFA From: "Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx" <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx> To: tanbarkgsd@xxxxxxxxx; cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: ] THE BOARD MEETING and you as members <WBR> NO IT ISN'T. I would love for you to re-read the mission statement, on the web site, in front of the members only wall under "Purpose". The German Shepherd Dog Club of America, Inc., also known as the Parent Club by breed enthusiasts, was formed in 1913 & incorporated February 7, 1916, by seven people: Anne Tracy, Margaret C. Throop, Edith May Schley, Vemon Castle, John Volkman, Paul Huhn, & B.R. Ruggles The purposes for which the Corporation was formed are: 1) To promote the breeding of the German Shepherd Dog; 2) To define precisely and publish definition of the true type, and to urge the adoption of such types on breeders, judges, dog show committees, etc., as the only recognized and unvarying standard by which the German Shepherd Dog is to be judged, and which may in the future be uniformly accepted as the sole standard of excellence in breeding and awarding prizes of merit; 3) To do all in its power to protect and advance the interests of the breed by offering prizes, supporting certain shows, encouraging the development of working qualities and taking any other steps that may seem advisable; 4) To promote its most conspicuous characteristics as Police Dog, War Dog, Red Cross Dog, and Herding Dog, and; 5) To encourage therefore all trial and demonstrations in which those qualities may be shown, so as to interest the public generally, but especially the police and other municipal organizations in our ideals. With these principles still guiding us, let our Club today continue to work for the betterment of German Shepherd Dogs in whatever way we are able. Last Updated on Thursday, 08 January 2009 18:19 The German Shepherd Dog Club of America, Inc., also known as the Parent Club by breed enthusiasts, was formed in 1913 & incorporated February 7, 1916, by seven people: Anne Tracy, Margaret C. Throop, Edith May Schley, Vemon Castle, John Volkman, Paul Huhn, & B.R. Ruggles The purposes for which the Corporation was formed are: 1) To promote the breeding of the German Shepherd Dog; 2) To define precisely and publish definition of the true type, and to urge the adoption of such types on breeders, judges, dog show committees, etc., as the only recognized and unvarying standard by which the German Shepherd Dog is to be judged, and which may in the future be uniformly accepted as the sole standard of excellence in breeding and awarding prizes of merit; 3) To do all in its power to protect and advance the interests of the breed by offering prizes, supporting certain shows, encouraging the development of working qualities and taking any other steps that may seem advisable; 4) To promote its most conspicuous characteristics as Police Dog, War Dog, Red Cross Dog, and Herding Dog, and; 5) To encourage therefore all trial and demonstrations in which those qualities may be shown, so as to interest the public generally, but especially the police and other municipal organizations in our ideals. With these principles still guiding us, let our Club today continue to work for the betterment of German Shepherd Dogs in whatever way we are able. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/ In a message dated 6/29/2012 3:12:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tanbarkgsd@xxxxxxxxx writes: Even though we elect our Board Members and certainly want them to consider the memberships wishes, their ultimate duty is to keep the club viable and fiscally sound so we can HAVE a club. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. 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