[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: THE AMATURE FUTURITY
- From: Ken Tank <tanksr@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 15:55:23 -0700
It appears from your survey, Nancy, that all 6 responses were basically
unhappiness with judging.
Am I wrong or should the Amateur Futurity winners be required to have an
amateur on their dog at the National? Otherwise I can stick an amateur on my
dog at the futurity, with only a few to compete with, and hire a top handler
at the National. I don't think that's right.
I think most objections to the Amateur Futurity would go away IF the Amateur
Futurity was AFTER the regular Futurity.
Ken
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:58 PM, WEBMASTER <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> FROM Nancy Harper
>
> The Board HAS NOT VOTED regarding who will pay for the Futurity Plaques,
> many Board Members are NOT IN FAVOR of requiring the Regional Clubs to pay
> for their plaques and ribbons. I CERTAINLY AM NOT AND WILL SO VOTE.
>
> Contrary to what is being said the amateur Futurity does not cost hosting
> clubs a lot of money. Amateur judges are REQUIRED TO PAY THEIR OWN
> TRANSPORTATION, the hosting club is required to pay for one dinner, one
> breakfast and one overnight. Most Amateur judges, in the past, are also
> exhibiting at the regular futurity and must stay overnight anyway and DO
> NOT CHARGE THE HOSTING CLUB FOR THE ONE OVERNIGHT. These amateur judges,
> many of whom, want to apply for their license, gladly pay for that expense
> for the opportunity to add one more match to their qualifications.
> Regional Clubs have the option of selecting an amateur judge who will be
> at the Futurity anyway & THIS ELIMINATES the overnight expense. . Many
> oppose the amateur, ASSUMING THERE IS A LARGE ADDITIONAL EXPENSE, which is
> not the case and basically many do not really know the policies & assume
> there will be expenses which in reality do not exist.
>
> In 06 a survey was taken among some of the members WHO BREED BUT NO
> LONGER PARTICIPATE IN THE FUTURITY SYSTEM. They were asked WHY? We
> received the following responses.
> 1) It is not a 'level playing field.
> 2) given a limited budget they opted for point shows, as they did not feel
> they have a chance at the Futurity.
> 3) You cannot win without a handler.
> 4) handlers are generally spoken for and if you are a small breeder or
> newcomer you are 'out of luck'
> 5) There was frequently bidding wars for handlers which excluded them
> 6)They had 'given up' on having to compete with top handlers.
>
> In my view, we need to INCLUDE the winners of the amateur in the finals at
> the National to eliminate extra time spent on a separate venue.
>
> The Board voted this down in July. .
> The amateur dogs/bitches are to be judged on the DOG not the handler, this
> is not meant to be Jr. showmanship and those dog/bitches winning should be
> allowed to be presented at the National by A PRO also.
>
> The amateur was meant to attract NEWCOMERS who will get out there and show
>
>
> We need new blood, what other suggestions do members have? Let's hear
> them. we have never had a true base line for evaluating the amateur
> because REGIONAL CLUBS opted NOT TO HAVE THEM; they were under false
> impressions as to the cost and effort associated with offering it. So how
> will be ever know if the amateur will take off and improve the
> participation & bring in new enthuasitic young people? The grounds are
> already there, the ring is already set up, there has not been a need to
> raise money for the little medallions they receive., Purina paid for them
> like the regular plaques. We use to begin Futurity judging at 8 AM due to
> the huge entries? So we complain if the Amateur begins at 8 or follows
> the regular Futurity? I fail to see how this is a big chore, if I am
> missing something please let me know so that I might include that in the
> equation/ AKC started offering the concept of the Amateur classes after
> the GSDCA began offering them. All breed clubs are beginning to see an
> increase in those classes. If we don't offer it we will never know if it
> will work. Carol Moore, Lew Bunch, Molly Schneider, Bart and Cindy, Ann
> Schultz have all seen new comers participate in the Amateur and now they
> are believers. Bart will tell you he was originally opposed.
>
> Nancy Harper
>
>
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