[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: THAT PUPPY STOLE MY POINTS AND TITLE!

  • From: Zoa Rockenstein <zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:41:20 -0800 (PST)

I agree.  Points are not "stolen".  They are "awarded".  Hopefully, they are 
awarded to the dog and bitch who best represent the standard on that day.  If a 
puppy is old enough to compete, it is old enough to take points.  I see nothing 
in the standard about age.  When people start adding criteria that are not in 
the standard, that is when we run into problems with judging!

Zoa
Dr. Zoa Rockenstein
www.riverrockshepherds.com

Home of: Ch. RiverRock's Hotel California RN HSAs CHIC (Callie), Ch. 
RiverRock's 

Heart of the Matter (Luke, co-owned with Scott Krook),RiverRock's Straight From 
The Heart PT (Sera), RiverRock's Karla v. Kenlyn (ch. pointed), and Kenlyn's 
Nakita (Nikki, co-owned with Kent Boyles).  Proud GSDCA Member and AKC Breeder 
of Merit




----- Original Message ----
From: Hickoryhill <hickoryhillgsd1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 4:30:18 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: THAT PUPPY STOLE MY POINTS AND TITLE!

From my viewpoint if the puppy is the best dog that day, the points should be 
awarded accordingly. Points should not be awarded  on age, but on quality. Many 
judges fret over giving puppies points because they fear the puppy may "fall 
apart" and they would look foolish and be ridiculed down the road for giving it 
points. However the alternative is to give an older dog points that lacks 
merit, 
simply because he is older. Yes, puppies can fall apart, but an older average 
speciman will always be average and will never get better. It is what it is. I 
think I would fret more if I gave a dog points and found out that he had been 
shown for quite a while and had been struggling to finish! I feel the same 
about 
Best of Breed. Best of Breed means the best of the breed on that day. Just 
because a finished animal is shown, does not mean he is worthy of Breed because 
he is already a champion, the dog should be the best exhibited that day in the 
judges opinion, whether a champion, WD or WB
. Again, I don't think you should be judging the dogs prior record, you should 
be judging the merit of all animals shown as specials on that day against the 
standard. Again, many judges fret if they don't reward the Special BOB, then 
they will be subject to ridicule by some of the fancy, or by those who lost on 
that day.  

----- Original Message -----
From: "Barbara Galasso" <uwish@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Showgsd-l" <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 3:11:19 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] THAT PUPPY STOLE MY POINTS AND TITLE!

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