Since I have had at least a million episodes concerning this subject with ALL KINDS OF CRITTERS I thought I'd comment on Barbara's post!! Just recently I may have mentioned the varied aspects of the make up of - well now I think of it - humans as well as the critters etc. Yes, we ARE all created EQUAL - but each is different in their own way of handling different situations and they are truly based on far more than just genetics and/or environment. We all, having lived with these great GSDs should see the difference even in siblings and their reactions to any given episode, whether it be good or bad at any moment. So very important tho, I feel, is training and constant schedules for all in an individual manner. Oh, yes Cesar may be Ok for what he does, BUT I do not agree with some of the things he does and/or is doing due to the actual multiple "pack" ways since that is just normal instinct anyway. Wow, now I am on a roll here because I'll never never forget my own dogs and how they - plus many others - always, before eating, would turn up to me and lick me in a thoughtful thank you way. I'm almost crying now I'm thinking of it. A couple neat memories of temperment testing and the canine good citizen test stick in my feeble brain vividly. At one of the Nationals the "umbrella test" - some of you may also remember this as it was so very neat. Ok, the handler & dog approached the subject. As he opened the umbrella that dog - I kid you not - totally destroyed that umbrella so quickly and thoroughly everyone cheered etc. like at a football game & a touchdown was made!! Think on it, the dog didn't touch the man. I rescued an outstanding GSD from a bad situation and somehow he knew (I feel they all do anyway) that I was his savior from the bad stuff. He went thru obedience etc. fine but when it came to the way you must do it for the canine good citizen test, (not like the every day kind of obedience where you are permitted to give the down/stay and sort of back up as you leave the dog). In this one you just go away. Well, there was no way that guy would want ME TO EVER LEAVE HIM and he softly followed me, failing the test. I could go on and on about so many instances of individuals and their reactions due to circumstances on an INDIVIDUAL way. Norma no L ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================