Ed......I am sure you remember Buster and TJ.......Buster actually trained in Sch, and did better than all the german fans expected....LOL.....they could do the work. TJ was a nice surprise, he got it, and he got it quick. I will put money on Dexter being able to do the work. The part that most people miss is the training. Not all dogs are suitable for training for all different types of work. Most dogs never get beyond basic training. I like to push my dogs, and they learn to hold and to off just because I want to know they can do it. On a different note, the GSD's we come across at the local shelters are 99% of the time from german lines....too high strung for the regular Joe. * Ileana * Inquest GSD's, Home of : 3x Sel EX AM CH & 2x Sel CAN CH Karizma's Cacique of Inquest TC, aka DEXTER Kaleef's Expensive Date (major pointed) aka JACKIE In a message dated 10/7/2011 3:46:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: I stand corrected...most conformation dogs would be great as on the street police dogs..............lol.....I love America.......lol..I'm on the phone right now with OPD..Oakland Police Dept...and I'll donate any of my four dogs..........thanks for setting me straight!!!!...lol....when pigs fly... FB ----- Original Message ----- From: frontiergsd@xxxxxxx To: grnram415@xxxxxxx, edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, October 7, 2011 12:27:30 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Suspicious puppy calls Totally disagree. I know of many that I would have loved to have with me as an officer. My Cassie who's whole family I would have used. Out of a Am. Sel Can GVx and a Am GV Can GV - sister is a GVX, brother Can. GV. Cassie has a bunch of titles too as does the rest of her family. Cassie was tested in Sch by the now breed warden and he wished he had her for breeding and showing in the German ring. Our R-Man son would have been phenomenal! My Woodside boy certainly would be a candidate for police work. One of my officer friends wants him in their car now without training. :) Indy has a tendency to 'Look up' which is hard to train dogs to do for searching buildings. He 'Holds' people in place when they aren't supposed to be where they are - you should have seen the face of the meter reader. Indy didn't 'go after' just 'Held' him in place. My friend said he had to get rid of his 'HIGH DRIVE' dog because he was so 'UP' he couldn't tell the difference some times. These are all different lines and BEAUTIFUL. There is no doubt in my mind these animals are strong, tough, and VERY SMART! YES even from the 'weakling' show lines there are a lot of these animals that could make it. Alycia From: "GrnRam415@xxxxxxx" <grnram415@xxxxxxx> To: edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx; Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, October 7, 2011 11:55:28 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Suspicious puppy calls You are so right! While the show dogs may be pretty, most don't have the drive or toughness needed for police work. However, many do have the work ethic to be awesome service dogs. I have two out to disabled people and 3 that are active therapy dogs. Also, don't discount those lines for bomb detection or narcotics where intelligence outweighs bite work. It's all about temperament!!!!!!!!! Laura Thomas -----Original Message----- From: edwinx < edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx > To: ELG440 < ELG440@xxxxxxx > Cc: showgsd-l < showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Fri, Oct 7, 2011 11:45 am Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Suspicious puppy calls Most of the police departments in the San Francisco Bay Area get adult dogs lready fully trained from Germany or the Czech Republic ....most...NOT ALL of he dogs produced by our conformation breeders would not be suitable for Police ork.......Ed ---- Original Message ----- rom: ELG440@ aol .com o: showgsd -l@ freelists .org ent: Friday, October 7, 2011 11:07:33 AM ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Suspicious puppy calls In a message dated 10/7/11 9:50:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, dwinx @comcast.net writes: ithin the past month I have received three operator assisted calls...all ut of state...the operator translates the call to me saying that the erson on the other end is hearing impaired...the person who claims to be mpaired wants me to send him/her my email address, pictures etc.....each time ave politely responded that I do not ship dogs......told my wife this must e some kind of scam...anyone else have this happen?... or those who do not know, Ed was a parole agent in one of the roughest ities in the country, Oakland, California. 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