Hi Linda, I already replied to Bill, before I read this email from you.?? I will say that I read the Roast and was NOT offended.? However, if some were and Ed was less than appreciative then the right thing to do was done and the Roast was removed.? A mistake to put it up in the first place without showing it to Ed?? Probably.? But a mistake nonetheless.? It was removed and the rest of the site is by far the most professional, impressive online GSD magazine we could hope to have.? The fact is that nobody is perfect and every media outlet puts itself out there and occasionally has to retract information or whatever.? We see this in magazine, television, radio etc.? One mistake is no reason to trash the site and damn it for eternity.? If this was the norm and Becky kept the Roast up and maybe even more, then I could understand. But she didn't!? She removed the Roast right away!? I honestly don't get it Linda.?? The site serves a purpose in our community and it can be a good benefit to all of us, especially those who would love a way to advertise without spending thousands of dollars.?? JMO, Jeff Pyle -----Original Message----- From: Lindabankhead@xxxxxxxxxxx To: billgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: Bill Basu <billgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 9:22 am Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Support of GSD by Design Hi Bill Here are some facts and why people object. The roast of Ed was on GSD By Design. Many of those who had a chance to view it before removal found the language vulgar. It is fair to say filled with swear words of the xrated variety. The verbiage was filled with nasty language and not something you would want the general public, junior handlers, and people in our breed to read. Ed was portrayed as a weirdo and low class, due to the content and language in the roast. Ed Barritt was elected by the membership to officiate our National Specialty as Breed judge. Many of us know Ed to tell jokes, tell everyone that he loves them, and banter is part of who Ed is. However, Ed is also highly regarded and respected by many, as evidenced by the votes he obtains every year he runs to preside on the best of our dogs. Ed is educated, smart, well spoken, and regarded as an expert in our breed. When news of the roast hit, over 600 people went to this web site to read the roast.(something GSD By Design bragged about as objections hit the list). It is fair to say that when people read the nasty hurtful language, they may have cast a light and viewpoint on Ed that was unfavorable. (The roast quoted Ed along with showing pictures of Ed that were personal in nature.) Ed himself personally called the editor and asked that it be removed, he did not know the content was filthy language and has not and did not ever endorse the roast. (I am the person who called Ed.) Ed is deserving of the utmost respect. I would ask that everyone ask themselves "Had this been me, how would I have liked it?" Whether you are judge: Ed Barritt, Helen Gleason, Ken Downing, Dave Rinke, or my own mother- the content was nothing short of harmful. Remember, over 600 people went to the site in a few hours- who knows the total hits by the time it was removed. People who do not know Ed read this. The site is public, available to children and juniors to top it off. It directly conflicted with GSD By Designs own policy to "keep it clean". I will ask one person who READ the roast to come forward and defend it. Trust me, if you did not see it- you would be offended. Perhaps if you need facts, ask for a copy in private from the editor. Indeed, people have requested to have their ads removed. It is my understanding that some of those requests have not been honored yet, their ads are still on the site. We can all agree that a web based forum is a great idea and concept. The web site is impressive. In my opinion, when you drag down highly respected individuals and brad about hits to your site, a question of integrity comes into play. We are a family and some day we will all leave this world. I certainly would not want a nasty roast to be part of my legacy, how about you? In closing, Ed is a very caring person who I consider a friend and regard very highly. Many of us do. I will defend his honor for this reason. Respectfully, Linda Bankhead -------------- Original message -------------- (I clipped due to length) From: Bill Basu <billgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Today i had the chance to get on the GSD by Design site and saw that there > was > some controversy over the Ed Barritt Roast. She replied to me that some > people have pulled > their ads and she has lost some advertisers due to the controversy over the > Ed > Barritt Roast. > This saddended me as we are not supporting a medium that is very benefical to > the majority of us. > > Now with that being said, do i understand that some people were offended by the > Ed Barritt Roast, absolutely, i understand that point of view. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 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