Maybe we can all use this information for a different purpose? Perhaps it's important to have this list very public if for no other reason than to be sure pet buyers go elsewhere. Just a thought, but I don't think these dealers would fit the definition of "responsible" or "ethical." Might be a good National listing to include on gsdbydesign. Cynthia VanDenBerge <vande001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: You are definately on the right track.? We all hate the thought of animals being used for research...and there is certainly enough bad or redundant research being done out there...but, without research we would not have many advances in medicine (for our own pets and humans), so, humanely and properly done, research is not a bad thing all of the time.? As far as where labs get animals, when I did research at Mayo, you could always tell when it was getting close to coon season because we would get a ton of hunting rejects.? Poor "washed out" coon hounds.? Contrary to popular belief, not all research dogs come from "official" breeding facilities or need to be of special "lab" quality. Regards, Cynthia Becky T. Dickson www.gretchanya.com www.gsdbydesign.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================