Not quite....the suggested, correct angle on a well laid back shoulder is 90 degrees, while the pastern should be "springy, but not let down" ideally at 25 degrees. I remember this well from Helen Miller Fisher. Of course, I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong. -:) Ileana (sitting at the airport) Sent from my Samsung Intercept™ DARLINBOO@xxxxxxx wrote: >Long ago :) we looked for the same angulation in the pasterns as in the >shoulder. They should match. >Sarah > > >In a message dated 10/23/2011 3:58:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: >There is no Breed of horse with an upright pastern like there is in dogs. >The pasterns have to have an angle to soften the jarring blow of the weight >of the horse. >If you watch a Quarter Horse that is a roping horse or used for >separating the >cattle or calf roping....their pastern sinks WAY DOWN when they skid to a >stop >on a dime. The angulation of the pastern saves the shoulder from the >jarring >stops....and from it's own weight. Anglulated pasterns are VERY >obvious on >a gaited horse. >If you ever ride......you will fully appreciate the angulated pastern!!! ><G> > >Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >www.Marhaven.com > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Sally Hayden To: DaList Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 5:26 AM >Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Structure > > > >I know nothing about the structure and movement of a horse . Are the basic >principles the same as a dog? Reason I ask is that many of the extreme >moving shepherds are softer in Pastern then the less angulated moving dogs. >In watching that magnificent. 3 x's national champion arabian I >questioned the Pastern looseness on him. This common ? Is it desirable for >moving >thru sand as they were originally bred for? 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