In a message dated 8/11/05 9:05:31 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Elsyd1@xxxxxxx writes: I am thinking seriously of NOT giving papers to pet people, explaining the situation to them, and giving them a slightly lower price with no papers. If a lot of us (of all breeds) did this, the AKC would suffer greatly. People seem to like papers, and often brag to their friends that they have a "registered German shepherd." Also, the AKC give those who register a packet including how to raise a puppy. The AKC offers other services to people to encourage responsible dog raising and puts on shows that people seem to enjoy. What possible reason can we state to make the AKC suffer? If you don't like what the AKC is doing, let them know. If you are sick and tired of the AKC, stop breeding dogs that you register with them, and stop attending their shows. None of us are being forced to enter dog shows. The AKC is still the premier dog registration organization in the United States. No one forces you to use them, but if you choose to do so, accept that they make the rules, and work within to change what you don't like. I do not agree with trying to make the AKC suffer. I do encourage working hard to change those things to which you do not agree. Have the serenity to accept those things you cannot change, the strength to change those things you can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Paul suggested that to me. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================