[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Stock dog training at risk : Alabama House Bill 86
- From: "Ginger Cleary" <cleary1414@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lfossland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <tsaligsds@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <RihadinK9@xxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 18:50:35 -0400
Obviously none of you has ever HUNTED wild boar with dogs. They must be
trained first, or you will lose a lot of dogs. This bill is not about dog
fighting, which of course I am opposed to.
Ginger Cleary
He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from
opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that
will reach himself. ~Thomas Paine
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Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Stock dog training at risk : Alabama House
Bill 86
I must have missed something. Who posted this stock dog training thing?
I would be opposed to that too. That is inhumane!
Lee
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> To: <RihadinK9@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 4/5/2006 8:09:49 AM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Stock dog training at risk : Alabama House
Bill 86
>
> Sorry guys,
> But I won't defend anyone's right to take a hog, knock out its teeth and
tusks, many times wire its mouth shut, and then sit around and BET on how
long it will take a dog to drag it to the ground and rip it up. Not my
kind of "sport". THIS IS NOT TRAINING! Hog/Dog events BEGAN when dog
fighting was made illegal. The same folks who fight their dogs are
participating and pushing this so called sport.
>
> My dogs herd. I don't allow them to destroy stock. Many dogs lure
course and have never killed a live rabbit. THOSE ARE SPORTS. I grew up
with hunting dogs in the family. I'm not opposed to legitimate hunting.
I personally have hunted AND fished and eaten the game I killed. It is a
part of life and kids need to know where meat comes from - not shrink
wrapped at the grocery! However, there is no excuse for deliberate pitting
of dogs against each other or other animals simply so that one can sit at
'ringside' and bet on the outcome!
>
> Just my opinion.
>
> Suzanne
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> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: RihadinK9@xxxxxxx
>
> > A heads up for those of you who do herding. This bill could spread to
other
> > states and it is a toe in the door to outlaw working dogs. Whether you
agree
> > with Hog Rodeos or not, your right to participate in an activity with
your dog
> > could be next.
> >
> > CROSSPOSTED
> >
> > Stock dog training at risk : Alabama House Bill 86
> >
> >
> > What affects one breed will sooner or later affect YOURS and MINE. You
might
> > want to e-mail these Alabama people... they won't know you don't live
there.
> > Fred
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > Subject: Stock dog training at risk : Alabama House Bill 86
> > Stock dog training is under attack by those politicians who do not know
> > beans about dogs. I have judged a Catahoula National (conformation
portion) and
> > have watched stock dogs being trained, tested, and trialed. Here is
another
> > example of busybodies interfering in something they are not well-versed
in.
> > Fred
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- from:
> > Robbie Wilson wilsonpits1@xxxxxxxxx This bill is disguised to outlaw
> > "Hog-Dog Rodeos", but if you read the bill it makes it illegal to train
a catch
> > dog
> > ANYWHERE, other than in woods/field hunting. If we have to wait and
train our
> > catch dogs in the woods/field, they will be injured and killed by the
wild
> > hogs, more frequently. It would be like entering your child in a Karate
> > Compitition, against blackbelts, and your child never has never
recieved any
> > training
> > before hand. If this goes threw it will also make fox penning and
coyote
> > penning illegal, as it reads now. This bill leaves a lot for
interpratation and
> > could lead to Stockdog trials and bayings being outlawed, if at ANY
time the
> > dogs grip the animals being worked or come in contact with them.
> >
> >
> > Robbie said, in an attachment, Please contact following folks on
> > (Judiciary) Committee in AL senate and tell them to KILL House Bill 86.
> > This bill will make it illegal to train a catch dog in a pen. Stock
Dogs
> > and Bay Dogs WILL be the NEXT thing outlawed !!!
> > byrnebr@xxxxxxxxx
> > myronpenn28@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > qtross2002@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > rodger99@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > senbedford@xxxxxxx
> > tedlittle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > vdfigures@xxxxxxx
> > wmitchell@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > zeblittle@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Fred
> >
> >
> > Ginger Cleary
> > He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy
from
> > opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent
that will
> > reach himself. ~Thomas Paine
> > Rome, GA http://www.rihadin.com/
> >
> >
>
>
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