[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sterotyping PIT BULLS

  • From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 23:08:33 -0700

I see a lot of Pit Bulls with their tails wagging at everyone all day long.   
It appears
to be very benign wagging at everything and everyone.   I experienced what 
bothers 
me about that while at the river with a dog a few years ago.
A happy happy beautiful fawn colored adult  Pit Bull playing happily with it's 
own
family and two of their kids retrieving and playing in the water.
It spotted me sitting with an 8 month old GSD about 150 feet away....stopped and
stared at us...stiffened and started towards us with "that look".    The owners 
started
calling it and it did not respond but continued towards me with that stiff 
legged "look".
Owners continued to call and coerce...dog did not listen but was "locked into" 
me
sitting in the sand chair.
Watching all this unfold....as he got closer I picked up a big rock and 
prepared myself
for what was coming and as I started to stand up.....the 8 mos. old GSD laying 
beside
me saw the Pit Bull and stood up and ROARED at it.....the dog 
startled...'snapped out'
of it's aggressive trance-like approach and finally turned and responded to the 
owners 
and went to them.    WHEW!!!
I personally think what has been bred into them is often just below that thin 
surface and
once they go into that 'mode'.......they are hard to bring back at the moment.  
I do not
see it as a protective or provoked behavior......but just something always 
there that
can surface.   
ALL of the attacks by P.B's  I know of are ALL unprovoked....... and never 
protective.....

Carolyn    marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.Marhaven.com


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx To: marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx Cc: 
showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; Kathy Tank 
  Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 10:39 PM
  Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sterotyping PIT BULLS


  the big difference is a GSD bite is like a car crash....a p it bull bite is 
like a plane crash...I came real close to shooting one about 20 years ago while 
checking up on one of my parolees.....a few years ago 
  in San Jose my blind ex-wife and her guide dog Woodson were attacked by a pit 
bull...thank God for the by-standers that came to her aid.....it could have 
been a real bad seen.....these dogs always seem to be in the hands of owners 
that should not have them....Ed 

  From: "Jackie Short-Nguyen" <marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx> 

  I find this whole conversation ironic. Not hard to say the exact same thing 
about  GSDs. 
  Incorrect temperaments are rampant in our breed. -- 
  Jackie & Jonathan Nguyen Marcato German 


  On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Jackie Short-Nguyen 
<marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

  > *these dogs were **bred for hundreds of years to fight*. <--Yes.  Bred to> 
fight *other dogs*.
  > Did you know back in the day when pit fighting was legal, dogs had to be > 
broken up for 
  various reasons (point scoring, resetting, etc), and dogs > that turned on 
their handlers were
   euthanized on the spot (shot)?
  >
  > Human aggression is INAPPROPRIATE in the APBT breed, unlike our own breed,
  > which SHOULD possess suspicion and aggression towards humans when
  > necessary.  A *correct *German Shepherd Dog is (and should be) more likely
  > to bite than a *correct* American Pit Bull Terrier
  >
  >



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