[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sterotyping PIT BULLS
- From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <InquestGSD@xxxxxxx>, <fhenry1@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <tanksr@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 18:59:21 -0700
I obviously could be wrong as it has never been a 'study course' for
me.........but I have
always understood it was the BULL Dog that was bred to fight Bulls? And not
in a
pit.......but an arena.
The Pit Bull and the 'sport' of dog fighting was developed from
that............??
ALWAYS follow the money trail.........<G>
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.Marhaven.com
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Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sterotyping PIT BULLS
Sorry.....lets get the story straight....<G>
Pit Bulls were NOT breed to kill other dogs. They were bred to fight in
pits (as Ken said) and they fought bulls, and other large game...whatever the
maniacs could think of throwing into the pit.
Local politicians tried to collect "tax" on these hugely attended fights
(think bullfighting in Spain) and the dog owners decided they rather keep
the money......this is when these pit fights became outlawed......and in
order to continue the "sport", they started fighting dogs, they could have
the
fights in small locales, and move frequently enough to avoid being caught.
I have the pleasure of working with many PitBulls, and frequently prefer to
work with a PitBull over many other breeds. Trust me when I tell you, you
can find breeders that breed for that sharp instinct. Most PitBulls you
find in shelters are second and third generation of mixes.
Any person who leaves a child unsupervised with an unfamiliar dog, of any
breed..is an idiot. Those "accidents" we read about are more cases of
neglectful adults than anything else. I remember paying a pretty penny for
a
gorgeous, well bred Norwegian Elkhound, only to find he wanted to kill my
youngest daughter whenever she would cry. Tuti was about 6 months old, she
wasn't threatening this dog, he just hated the sound of a crying baby....went
after her with a passion. He was out of my house that same day.
I dont blame the breed, but I didn't get another one either. Got a GSD and
never looked back. Tuti learned to walk holding on to Abby, a Polo
daughter that hated to show, and whos whole purpose in life was to look
after
this kid. Guess what? I have a girlfriend who has a similar story, only
difference is her daughter held on to the ears of their pit bull when she
was a
tiny baby, and learned to walk holding on to that dog.
Punish the deed, not the breed.This breed is so misrepresented and
misunderstood....I pray our breed never goes thru this.
* Ileana *
Love me, love my dogs.
In a message dated 7/10/2012 2:27:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
I know I'll be sorry I got into this....because someone will take offense
and think they have to
tell me about some sweet adorable Pit Bull somewhere. I already know of
a few, and one
is often at our West Coast shows........but I am speaking in
"generalities"...and we need
to admit to a problem before we can SOLVE a problem!
You can worry that it is "sterotyping" for Pit Bulls if you want.......but
let's be honest here.
Pit Bulls were bred to kill! They were bred to be aggressive enough to
kill another dog
for no real reason.
If you can bear to watch the video of it..... the dogs are wagging their
tails ALL THE TIME
they are fighting.... whether BEING killed... or killing! They are in
their mode of what they
were bred for. They were bred to kill in the pits as Ken said.....a
LONG LONG TIME
before AKC.
To compare to the temperament problems in a GSD is not the same. THIS
Breed was
bred to herd and protect....to be watchful, protective ....aggressive only
when necessary.
But it was never bred for generations to KILL anything.
Any animal that has to hunt prey to survive is capable of killing....but
it is not bred into
the very nature of the working drive of a GSD. That WAS the WORK of
the Pit Bull!
That was the basis for the beginning of the Breed. If they did not kill
the other dog they
were throwaways.
YEP there are problems with our GSD. Generally speaking it is fear. Fear
biting is a big
problem in itself....but usually it is a horrendous quick bite and they
are gone. They do not
hang around for the kill. ( there are exceptions to every
rule....again....this is a generality )
Problems with our GSD is that they were bred for many things....solid calm
friendly family
dogs with a great sense of humor....herding dogs, watchful alert
protection ..and yes.....even
for attack work on command.
It's a complex temperament that must fit all molds....and some do not, and
some are not even
capable of most of it!! Part of the problem is that many do not
understand what a calm
confident watchful dog is.... friendly, but aware of all it's
surroundings all the time and tough
enough to stand it's ground when necessary.
Many want a soft "needy" dog.... because they think it "loves it's Mommy"
more. ?
Many make excuses for fear or aggression.....and therein lies the problem
for the GSD.
A broad spectrum of weak....... to overly aggressive......but not calm,
solid tough dogs.
Just my opinion.....
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
_www.Marhaven.com_ (http://www.Marhaven.com)
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