Again the Standard describes correct movement. Faults of movement are only implicitly defined. It leaves the interpretation of movement and transmission up to the judge. You began this discussion saying you could remove the fault of locked hocks by redefining the Standard. You stated this in the context of the white GSD issue. Do you propose to change the Standard to say for instance that a GSD that fails to extend in the hock beyond a certain angle is a fault or maybe the Standard should say that GSD that can reach beyond it's nose is a fault? How should the Standard define the lack of side gait fault? I got this in response to my proposal to solve the problem of locked hocks by making the standard require it. I won't say who sent me this, but it shows the danger of using sarcasm, or innuendo on this List. We can't see the sly smile, or the nudge on a joke. It is a clear example of why we need to be careful of what we say in writing, and not in person. The Lister who responded with this, missed my point. But, he took time to respond and had good points. It was my fault to try to make a point and be a bit obtuse. I understand not understanding my point, it was hyperbole. But, always remember that The Big Bang Theory is a slice of real life, and there is some Leonard in all of us. Evan L. Ginsburg gsyrfund.com Asgard German Shepherds _http://www.asgardgsd.com_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================