In a message dated 8/15/2005 6:23:50 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, domara4@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: Why do we care what other people/judges in other breed say? Oh my....I personally care what other judges (other than GSD judges) think and say. I think the allbreed ring has been the savior of the breed, as the breed has gone off in the past into extreme, ugly, unsound, (but great sidegaiting!) type. We need to pull away from pleasing each other so much, and trying to breed and show dogs fit to be shown to the world. Syd Syd Mailberg 425-432-4144 23910 SE 276th St Maple Valley, Wa. 98038 www.kingswoodgermanshepherds.homestead.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================