I can certainly sympathize with handlers and schedules, but for many who attend the National, it is their vacation, and an opportunity to see dogs that they have only seen in pictures, and people they only talk to on the list. I love the Parade of Great Dogs, and would gladly stay after show classes to watch it. I feel the same about the Stud Dog and Brood Bitch classes, though I think limiting the number of progeny in those classes is necessary. I think the National should be for everyone, and I have no objection to seeing extra events in the middle of the day. Not interested? Go have lunch. I don't think that Specials should be after an event that is lengthy, as this is really the highlight of the National Specialty. Kathy is right. People will stay to see the events they care about, and the others can go tend dogs and relax a bit. Back in 1973, there were no puppy classes at the National in Seattle. What a lot of complaints there were!! This was the year when the Covy Tucker Hill Spice litter was born, and they had to enter them in the adult classes. I must say they did pretty well, in spite of being the class babies. The Parade that year had in it CH. Falko v Celler Schloss. I think he was 13, and looked absolutely fabulous. I had a grandson of his, and was so thrilled to see him up close and personal. I don't think an answer is cutting events. I think scheduling events properly can be a big plus. We can offer all the things we go to the National to see, and still have it run on a convenient schedule for exhibitors and handlers. And perhaps nothing but the opening ceremony and Specials should be scheduled on Saturday. We have created the long National ourselves, by insisting that everything the German Shepherd Dog can do be at this show. In the old days, it was just Conformation and Obedience. Now look at what can be seen! Those events plus Herding, Agility, the WDA competition, and what'll you bet we will offer Rally pretty soon? There is no way the National is "just another dog show". I for one, like it that way! Doris ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================