> he is well below the age that this disease develops and one of the main > clinical symptoms is obvious pain. > > susan Susan, I'm sorry you may have been misinformed on a point; but yes, clinical disease most often happens with adult dogs. There have been young pups/dogs who become affected clinically, due to severity in the individual & husbandry of that individual. Unfortunately, this little pup has had a rough ride in life so far- but yay(!!!) now has his chance. Many spinal problems cause very little pain at all; due to spine compression & pressure on the nerve roots, often a dog feels no pain at all (nor anything else sensory, and loss of motor skills to follow). One of the earliest case studies concerning CES (which is caused by many spinal deformities, IVDD, stenosis, transitional vertebrae, spondylitis to name a few), was a bitch who finished 4 agility titles shortly before surgery, not in a competitive fashion, but good runs, and her nerves were so compressed her tail became dead (one of the definitive ways to dx when the disease is clinical and progressing), she had both bladder atony & mega colon from the loss of nerve function. This dog had spine surgery shortly after the agility trials, as it was a continuing thing to figure out her problems, until a doc made all the connections. (BTW, this was a few years ago, before we had the knowledge we do now!). Many more have saved their dogs through early intervention due to experiences & sharing of dogs just like the above case- and I must mention that all the dogs I speak about are GSDs. The surgery is meant to stabilize the spine & prevent progression of the damage; the hope is that due to the relief of nerve root compression, the dog may gain back some lost functions. If this were a pup I was caring for, I would surely be doing just what is being done, exercise, conditioning, and bringing the poor guy back to health-- then reevaluate his performance at the time--- but the radiographs don't lie- even OFA (occasionally) notes those transitional vertebrae and stenosis because it's plain as the nose on their faces to see and comment on. Spinal diseases ARE INHERITABLE GENETIC DISEASES. Check out the research done on the Isle Royale Wolves (.org) site for more details done on an isolated population (perfect for genetic studies) on an island in Lake Superior for an in-depth study paper- which includes pictures of malformations that happen not only in the wolves, but the GSD and many other breeds of dog. A proactive owner and treatment can give this pup a mostly normal life; at least besides the condition of his hips that "aren't so great but seen worse"- but gratefully, we have repairs for that. I would also consider going to an orthopedic veterinarian to further evaluate both his spine and hips- if his hips are what are truly causing the issues at this time, he's of a perfect age to have many of the remodeling surgeries available; the last being a total hip replacement as an adult, but FHO & TPO are both best done before 1 year of age. But then, what do I know as only a vet tech, avid researcher & fellow breeder? JP&P JayDee's Proud-Haus Shepherds/Proud K911 www.jaydeesphs.com Committed to the Total Dog you can be Proud of!!! AKC Breeder of Merit ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================