I think that the old redbooks would be fun for you to read. hard to get though. There are interviews with many well known and successful breeders and some really interesting information there. Plus you can see many of the dogs behind the winners of today. There were some 'clicks' that produced some fantastic animals, but they also produced some serious health problems. Anyway, reading old redbooks and reviews can really be helpful.. Cynthia Stormy435@xxxxxxx wrote:What were the LINES back then that combined well that produced these features? --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page ? Try My Yahoo! ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================