In a message dated 1/7/2005 12:31:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, Stormy435@xxxxxxx writes: > What WAS the impetus for the dogs of the late '80's and early '90s to be so > > over angulated? Was there a particularly popular stud dog or was there > some > particular trait that the breeders were trying to accomplish? Was it that > the > judges were rewarding that look? When I first started showing, I saw some > of the GSDs at that time and was glad that I chose to own a moderately > angled > girl. > What are our goals now? What is the over-riding feature that needs to be > bred OUT of the lines? Too feminine males? Too masculine bitches? Too > little front? Teach me, please > > Stormy HOpe > 69 and counting <vbg> > It was a gradual thing It did not happen over night. If you will look at the dogs and bitches that won the top spots in those same years GVs GVXs and selects you will see that those dogs for the most were not over done. As for the overall show dogs I think it was the good old American way. If a little bit is good a lot must be better...........Fred ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================