I have kept males, intact males, together. In and out of the house, I am The Boss. It is never a problem. Going outside, the older male goes first, and he lets the other male/males out. Right now I am on my laptop, and they are both sleeping in the living room floor. Earlier the UPS guy knocked on the front door, TJ goes first, and Dexter stands behind TJ, imitating his behavior. That's why I love old dogs. They make my life so much easier. <G> So far so good. I am very vigilant, and we have had 2 or more males for a long time now, at one point we had 4, living together. It just worked that way. Buster and TJ ran outside together one time, and they got into an argument, lots of growling and hairs up their backs. I told them they would find themselves neutered in a second flat if they even took one step toward each other, I said this not nicely and in a very guttural voice. They thought better about it. We didn't have a fight. The best alpha dog we had was a bitch, Capi. If anyone got out of line, she would let them have it, and she was brutal about it. Trust me, they preferred my corrections. She also taught the males not to waste time with bitches in heat that were not ready. Lo and behold, my males paid no attention to bitches in heat until they were ready. No going out of food, no constant howling. Now TJ and Dexter, well, Dexter thinks TJ walks on water. He sleeps next to the Old Man. TJ gets fed first, he goes out first, and we have no problems. Add rescue males that come in for a short time. And bitches in heat. No problems so far. Dexter is now 8 months, and likes to test his boundaries, but TJ is very no nonsense and we are always around. The dogs sort out who is in charge. I just keep the order. If the male was that nice, I would keep him. I am very comfortable handling strong dogs. We let them know, daily, what their place is. Firmly, not cruelly. I believe that to be the best kind of positive reinforcement. Good luck. Hope it works out for you. Ileana ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================