Tubal Ligations are apparently very difficult to do in bitches due to the tiny size of the tubes. Vasectomies are easier. Both are almost impossible to do in puppies at local vets unless they have very specialized equipment (think laparscopic due to the tiny size of the 'equipment') . Haven't done either but just took an on-line course through the U of Minnesota where we discussed this. Mary-Anne -----Original Message----- From: Christina Klahn Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 1:08 PM To: GSD Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Spay/Neuter Question Hi all. I am just about finished with a very interesting and thought provoking book and it's got me wondering on the issue of spaying/neutering. We have all been reading the research that has been surfacing over the last few years that there are many negative health implications associated with these procedures previously unknown, specifically certain cancers, especially in larger dogs. The book is titled "Pukka's Promise: The Quest for a Longer Lived Dog" by Ted Kerasote (same author as Merle's Door). I have a couple questions that I'd love to see what everyone's thoughts are: 1. Have any of you out there chosen to do a tubal ligation or vasectomy in lieu of spaying or neutering with their own dogs? 2. Would anyone ever consider doing a tubal ligation or vasectomy on a puppy before it leaves your care to it's new home? Breeders all fear placing puppies in homes where the owners agree to steralize and then the dog is bred irresponsibly without our knowledge. Limited AKC registration doesn't always stop it these days because of all the other registries available now (and paperwork can and does get forged anyhow). Yet, as the research shows, you don't want to spay or neuter a puppy before they leave our care for their overall health. It leaves the "option" of the new owner choosing to steralize down the road, but the breeder the peace of mind the dog can't be bred and still benefits from having their hormones in place. I don't mean these questions as a way to start a battle, but a discussion of the masses. What does everyone think, feel, etc? What would you personally do? After reading this book, I'm personally rethinking many things, but especially spay/neuter for my own pets. The author has done extensive research on the topic and has nicely presented it in an obective manner so both sides are known. On a side note, I recommend everyone on this list read this book. It's very worth the read for ANY dog owner. Tina Klahn Illusion GSDs ducksavsfan@xxxxxxxxx ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================