Excellent, easy read on biologically appropriate food concepts and the dietary needs of dogs and cats: http://www.orijen.ca/orijen/ORIJEN_White_Paper.pdf Paula, 68 days and counting Home of Best in Show, Best in Specialty Show, Multi-Group Winning, GSDCA Dual Title Award Recipient, AKC JAM/AOE, International and American Champion, Grand Champion Asgard Harley Davidson v Plamark, HT, PT, CGC, TC, HIC, OFA CHIC #64047 (Hips, Elbows, Cardiac, & Thyroid), DNA tested clear of the long-coat factor. #1 Male German Shepherd Dog in the Country, #4 German Shepherd Dog in the Country, as of 6/30/10 (Canine Chronicles) First male German Shepherd Dog Grand Champion. ---------- Original Message ---------- Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 07:30:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Cochran <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Soy question And does a dog have the enzyme to digest soy.�If it�doesn't then it just passes through the body :0) Terry ________________________________ From: "Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx" <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx> To: ravencd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wed, August 4, 2010 4:42:25 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Soy question Soy added to "our" food system (and the dogs) is a cheap source of protein� and very different from the fermented soy products famous in the pacific rim� countries w/ all of their health benefits.� I avoid it in human and dog� food. That said, I realize that the beef and chicken in the dog's food has been� fed....soy.� (And corn, so even if your dog food doesn't specifically list� corn and/or even if you feed raw, your dogs eat corn.) You really have to be diligent to avoid in it our food BTW...it's not� always listed as "soy".� People see "soy" and thing tofu and make a "good� for you connection".� Not always so.� That explains why certain� cancers are lower in pacific rim counties, then "we" added a bunch of soy to� things and see statistically very different outcomes.... Does it increase the incidence of bloat?� Who knows.� Put me in� the camp that says there is certainly a genetic component w/ occasional� environmental "triggers".� So, until science gives us concrete� answers, I scrutinize pedigrees and do my damndest to control their� environment...and pray. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd� Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/)� In a message dated 8/3/2010 11:32:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,� ravencd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Sorry,� another dog food question...some say there is a connection between feeding dog� food with soy and bloat...others say their is not. Is soy flour or soybean� meal the same as soy and would you avoid this in your food? Jodi� Bobin� ??? Sacred Heart GSDs www.sacredheartgs.com� ____________________________________________________________ Penny Stock Jumping 2000% Sign up to the #1 voted penny stock newsletter for free today! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4c599ac467e1e572bfast05duc ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================