[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Something that definitely should be considered inreg
- From: barbara17236@xxxxxxx
- To: pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 09:39:16 -0400 (EDT)
We include the information explaing the test, what the results can be, what
they mean, etc. in our puppy packets. We also have links on our website.
We also tell puppy buyers that the test is one of the newer tests available to
breeders and it is all we have at the moment. It is the best we can do. We
tell our puppy buyers that the test may or may not pan out in the end but we
are trying to do our part in preventing DM from ruining our breed.
Look at it from another viewpoint - if you don;t use the test, and your line
ends up palqued with DM, won;t you feel bad that there was a tool to help wipe
out DM but you ignored it because the test was new, possibly not accurate, etc?
Wouldn't you rather be part of the group who helped prove the test is right
or wrong? Perhaps, making a better test for future generations?
Barb Hively - PA
DNA. It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd
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From: Paula M. Cooke <pcooke212@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wed, May 23, 2012 9:56 pm
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Something that definitely should be considered inreg
I 100% totally agree with what Debbie and Barb SAY, but, what I am SEEING is
eople not testing BOTH parents and not testing offspring! And lying to brood
itch owners and puppy buyers about just what the 3 different results mean. It
sn't rocket science! It is basic Mendelian Theory as taught in elementary
chool science classes!! The marker is NOT poly-genetic, as some seem to want
o think!
Not a tool if not used properly.
Paula, 139 days and counting
Home of BIS, BISS, Multi-Group Winning, 2 Time AKC JAM/AOE, International,
anadian (pending CKC confirmation), & American Champion, Silver Grand Champion,
sgard Harley Davidson, HT, PT, CGC, TC, HIC, OFA CHIC #64047 (Original
ersion), 1st male GSD Grand Champion. 2010 #1 GSD in California, Lifetime #1
SD in Michigan, 2010 #1 GSD male in USA (AKC GCH Stats), 2011 Westminster
ennel Club Dog Show Invitee, Lifetime AKC Eukanuba Invitee. 2 Time Cruft's
nvitee.
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rom: DOGSRLUV@xxxxxxx
ate: Wed, 23 May 2012 15:52:34 -0400 (EDT)
ubject: Re: Something that definitely should be considered inreg
I have said all along, use the test as a guild but don't through the baby
ut with the bath water until they can prove accuracy. To many people out
here seem to want to take this test as gospel but I do not believe there is
enough proof yet that it is accurate so, I will test and I will try and
void the carriers if I can. HOWEVER, I will not breed to a Mediocre dog
ust because they are clear of one disease on a test I am not confident in.
hat about autoimmune diseases, torsion, other spinal issues that we do not
ave tests for. The dog you breed to that is clear of those, may very well
ave some of these other issues in them.
f in 10 years, they prove this accurate then YES I would remove affected
ogs and maybe even carriers, in the mean time test and use the info.
eb
n a message dated 5/23/2012 12:30:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
aris-smith_k9s@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
M is still such a controversial disease that has many bewildered. They say
he test is accurate but I do ask where is all the research statistics
hat
rove the accuracy. I have a male who tested at risk and go back and forth
n what I should do. Information like in the following link really makes me
uestion the current tests. Would love to hear other opinions and thoughts
n the subject. Keep it friendly ;)
ttp://www.change.org/petitions/ofa-university-of-missouri-dna-dm-test-desig
ations
Tammy Paris-Smith
www.noble-spirit-shepherds.com
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Subject: Re: Something that definitely should be considered inreg
rom: barbara17236@xxxxxxx
ate: Wed, 23 May 2012 16:00:11 -0400 (EDT)
We have tested ALL of our breeding GSDs. This is just one tool in deciding
ho gets bred with whom.
IMO - the more of us who participate with the DM testing and then have
ecrospsies done later, the more data the next generations will have to make
etter breeding decisions. In other words, if you have a dog who is tested DM
lear, then dies and a necropsy shows he had DM, this information is invaluable
o others. But, if you didn't have the dog tested, but did do a necropsy, how
re you going to relate that to the DM test?
All tests start somewhere.
Barb Hively - PA
NA. It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd
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rom: Paris-Smith_k9s <paris-smith_k9s@xxxxxxxxxxx>
o: showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
ent: Wed, May 23, 2012 3:30 pm
ubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Something that definitely should be considered inregards
o DM
M is still such a controversial disease that has many bewildered. They say
e test is accurate but I do ask where is all the research statistics that
ove the accuracy. I have a male who tested at risk and go back and forth
what I should do. Information like in the following link really makes me
estion the current tests. Would love to hear other opinions and thoughts
the subject. Keep it friendly ;)
http://www.change.org/petitions/ofa-university-of-missouri-dna-dm-test-desig
tions
ammy Paris-Smith
ww.noble-spirit-shepherds.com
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