I 100% totally agree with what Debbie and Barb SAY, but, what I am SEEING is people not testing BOTH parents and not testing offspring! And lying to brood bitch owners and puppy buyers about just what the 3 different results mean. It isn't rocket science! It is basic Mendelian Theory as taught in elementary school science classes!! The marker is NOT poly-genetic, as some seem to want to think! Not a tool if not used properly. Paula, 139 days and counting Home of BIS, BISS, Multi-Group Winning, 2 Time AKC JAM/AOE, International, Canadian (pending CKC confirmation), & American Champion, Silver Grand Champion, Asgard Harley Davidson, HT, PT, CGC, TC, HIC, OFA CHIC #64047 (Original Version), 1st male GSD Grand Champion. 2010 #1 GSD in California, Lifetime #1 GSD in Michigan, 2010 #1 GSD male in USA (AKC GCH Stats), 2011 Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show Invitee, Lifetime AKC Eukanuba Invitee. 2 Time Cruft's Invitee. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: DOGSRLUV@xxxxxxx Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 15:52:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Something that definitely should be considered inreg I have said all along, use the test as a guild but don't through the baby out with the bath water until they can prove accuracy. To many people out there seem to want to take this test as gospel but I do not believe there is enough proof yet that it is accurate so, I will test and I will try and avoid the carriers if I can. HOWEVER, I will not breed to a Mediocre dog just because they are clear of one disease on a test I am not confident in. What about autoimmune diseases, torsion, other spinal issues that we do not have tests for. The dog you breed to that is clear of those, may very well have some of these other issues in them. If in 10 years, they prove this accurate then YES I would remove affected dogs and maybe even carriers, in the mean time test and use the info. Deb In a message dated 5/23/2012 12:30:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, paris-smith_k9s@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: DM is still such a controversial disease that has many bewildered. They say the test is accurate but I do ask where is all the research statistics that prove the accuracy. I have a male who tested at risk and go back and forth on what I should do. Information like in the following link really makes me question the current tests. Would love to hear other opinions and thoughts on the subject. Keep it friendly ;) http://www.change.org/petitions/ofa-university-of-missouri-dna-dm-test-desig nations Tammy Paris-Smith www.noble-spirit-shepherds.com ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Something that definitely should be considered inreg From: barbara17236@xxxxxxx Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 16:00:11 -0400 (EDT) We have tested ALL of our breeding GSDs. This is just one tool in deciding who gets bred with whom. IMO - the more of us who participate with the DM testing and then have necrospsies done later, the more data the next generations will have to make better breeding decisions. In other words, if you have a dog who is tested DM clear, then dies and a necropsy shows he had DM, this information is invaluable to others. But, if you didn't have the dog tested, but did do a necropsy, how are you going to relate that to the DM test? All tests start somewhere. Barb Hively - PA DNA. It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd -----Original Message----- From: Paris-Smith_k9s <paris-smith_k9s@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wed, May 23, 2012 3:30 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Something that definitely should be considered inregards to DM DM is still such a controversial disease that has many bewildered. They say he test is accurate but I do ask where is all the research statistics that rove the accuracy. I have a male who tested at risk and go back and forth n what I should do. Information like in the following link really makes me uestion the current tests. Would love to hear other opinions and thoughts n the subject. Keep it friendly ;) http://www.change.org/petitions/ofa-university-of-missouri-dna-dm-test-desig ations Tammy Paris-Smith www.noble-spirit-shepherds.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. 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