Years ago, I was showing a dog. Nice dog at an All Breed. The judge put him 2nd do the end and the dog at the end was another nice dog. Both of these dogs needed only one or two points to finish. This judge told my handler to never ever bring such an awful specimen of a GSD to him again and that she should have known better. My dog finished the next weekend and placed in the group both days he one, took his majors at specialities and 2nd American Bred at the nationals the year before, the other dog that was dead last went on to finish with a major I think at a specialty a few weeks later and then on to his ROM. The dog this judge put up that day was given points number 31 & 32 and NEVER FINISHED.... Sometimes they just don't know what a good dog is. And I think if a judge withholds a ribbon it should be explained as they better know what they are talking about when they do it however, a little bit of tacked is needed in the explaination. Deb In a message dated 3/7/2010 9:54:59 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: There is a way to tell an exhibitor that a dog is not competitive with today's dog.....if Skip actually told her just "get a better dog," I think that was awful. I can't imagine him saying that, but maybe he did...still, there are easier ways to tell someone when showing a dog is a waste of time and money.......... Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Eschette" <geschette@xxxxxxx> >I to agree with the judge. If u want to show get a better dog. If you > want to show on performance, she probaly has the right dog. > If I was the judge, I would have explained to her my thinking. Not > just giving her a red ribbon. > > Greg ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================