[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sod at the National

  • From: Terry Cochran <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: billgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, DOGSRLUV@xxxxxxx, kimbergsd@xxxxxxx, tanksr@xxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 09:25:06 -0700 (PDT)

I say we move the national to an outside location and not have to worry about 
buying grass.  The vendor could be on one side and the paid seating on the 
other. Without the expense of the building I bet we could even pay for flushing 
porta potties, a tent set up for the handlers. One set up for the officials 
Etc.  We might try this once in a while to generate income.We would need to go 
to a warmer climate if we are going to have it in late Oct or Early Nov. I 
would 
much rather take a chance every third year than to have to go indoors every 
year. Performance is outside why not conformation too? 
Terry

Why must we always have the national indoors?

Terry



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From: Bill Basu <billgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: DOGSRLUV@xxxxxxx; kimbergsd@xxxxxxx; tanksr@xxxxxxxxx
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Sent: Tue, August 17, 2010 10:42:35 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sod at the National

We show the whole show year on grass and there is absolutely no reason to 
change 

that for a National. Having sod at the National should be a requirement and not 
a "nice to have".  Other than the good points made for the well being of the 
dogs and us "old" handlers, on a purely emotional level when i see a dirt 
National it seems to take away from some of the prestige and aura of a 
National.  IMHO Grass is Class and Dirt is Dirt
.
BTW if the judge needs dirt to find the faults of a dog, he or she needs to go 
back and take the judging exam again and see if they can pass.

Bill






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From: "DOGSRLUV@xxxxxxx" <DOGSRLUV@xxxxxxx>
To: kimbergsd@xxxxxxx; tanksr@xxxxxxxxx
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Sent: Tue, August 17, 2010 9:19:26 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sod at the National

Kim, that is because you don't handle.  That was awful..... I would  not do 
it again personally... Not that I could now but if I could I would not do  
it again.

Deb


In a message dated 8/17/2010 8:40:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
kimbergsd@xxxxxxx writes:
Personally I liked in DelMar there was no hiding in the grass.a lot  of 
faults were exposed,

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On Aug 17, 2010, at  8:34 PM, Ken Tank <tanksr@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> The packed dirt  is hard on the dogs, it's hard on the handlers and the 
dogs
> don't move  as well. It's hard on the dogs joints and feet. That being 
said,
> if we  don't have the money for sod, so be it.
> Ya know.......we can have the  National outdoors on natural grass out 
here on
> the west coast.  ;-)
> We did that at the Phoenix National and it was great.
>  Ken
> 
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:03 PM, <ELG440@xxxxxxx>  wrote:
> 
>> In a message dated 8/17/2010 6:49:45 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time,
>> texasgsds@xxxxxxxxx writes:
>>  
>> This  question is for those of you who are planning to show  at the
>> National.  I  have asked several people including  Tish, how much the sod
>> costs.  The
>> general  consensus seems to be between $5K and $10K.  Since the PC is  in
>> financial straits, would you be willing to give up the sod for  a 
properly
>> watered and packed dirt surface?  If properly done  packed dirt can be a
>> great
>> surface to show on.  The dirt arena at he shows in Crosby, TX is  smooth
>> and even  like glass and there is no dust.  I know that the  exhibitors  
were
>> not happy with the dirt in OH.  Just  asking.
>> 
>> 
>> As the person who tore a  hamstring the last time we tried packed  dirt, 
I
>> say go for  sod. Also, I think it costs closer to $20,000.  I do  think  
we
>> can
>> negotiate for it.  There was a shredded  rubber service in  Canada that I
>> judged on, that looked  great.  I understand you can take and  store it 
and
>>  use
>> it over.
>> 
>> Maybe we should look at  that.
>> 
>> And, I also remember 82 in Ohio. Anyone want to  talk about that  
surface?
>> 
>> Evan L.  Ginsburg
>> Asgard German Shepherds
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