Yes- white along with blue & liver plus long coat are all simple autosomal recessives. They just take both parents to have one copy of that particular gene (aka carriers) for coat or colour (or both or all!) for some of the offspring to be white (think Punnett square so theoretically 25% of the offspring will be "x"). Whites do not show up anymore in German bred dogs since white was unregisterable plus actively culled for awhile and the gene was pretty much lost. That blue and liver are just undesirable, they still show up in German bred litters just like they do here. Probably the assumption that people have about the German bred population having higher rates of blue & liver is because once a stud produces an off colour, they have got to go! And usually to America somewhere. And they get bred here and wow a blue/ liver puppy. Now that SV has accepted coats it's alright to be a coat carrier so I think that won't be a surprise thing anymore. Since most show lines are being bred to be black & red/tan saddles and normal coated, when breeding within the type, yes it is less likely to see blue, liver or white than it is in other lines. There are breeders who purpose bred whites & coloureds together for the purpose of improving type/health/whatever in either ( or both) their white or coloured lines and have had success with both. :) JayDee's Proud-Haus Shepherds/ ProudK911 www.jaydeesphs.com AKC Breeder of Merit Home of the Total Dog you can be Proud of!!! > In a message dated 8/12/13 5:03:27 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > arcturusgermanshepherds@xxxxxxxxx writes: > > it happen that a white puppy shows up in a normal colored litter? > When I think of all the people I know who breed GSD's I can't think of > anyone. I remember a blue born one time about 10 years ago, and the > occasional long coat, but thats about it. Are there certain lines that do > produce this? What about German lines, does it happen in them? Inquiring > minds want to know! > > > > ===========================================================================> > POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original > author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any > kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the > Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and > its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed > in any post. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE > PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org > SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html > NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ > =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================