[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: So, how often does it happen?

  • From: Jen Proud <proudk9@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "ELG440@xxxxxxx" <ELG440@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 12:01:16 -0500

Yes- white along with blue & liver plus long coat are all simple autosomal 
recessives. They just take both parents to have one copy of that particular 
gene (aka carriers) for coat or colour (or both or all!) for some of the 
offspring to be white (think Punnett square so theoretically 25% of the 
offspring will be "x"). 
Whites do not show up anymore in German bred dogs since white was 
unregisterable plus actively culled for awhile and the gene was pretty much 
lost. That blue and liver are just undesirable, they still show up in German 
bred litters just like they do here. Probably the assumption that people have 
about the German bred population having higher rates of blue & liver is because 
once a stud produces an off colour, they have got to go! And usually to America 
somewhere. And they get bred here and wow a blue/ liver puppy. Now that SV has 
accepted coats it's alright to be a coat carrier so I think that won't be a 
surprise thing anymore. 
Since most show lines are being bred to be black & red/tan saddles and normal 
coated, when breeding within the type, yes it is less likely to see blue, liver 
or white than it is in other lines. There are breeders who purpose bred whites 
& coloureds together for the purpose of improving type/health/whatever in 
either ( or both) their white or coloured lines and have had success with both. 
:)
JayDee's Proud-Haus Shepherds/ ProudK911
www.jaydeesphs.com 
AKC Breeder of Merit
Home of the Total Dog you can be Proud of!!!

> In a message dated 8/12/13 5:03:27 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
> arcturusgermanshepherds@xxxxxxxxx writes:
> 
> it  happen that a white puppy shows up in a normal colored litter?
> When I think of all the people I know who breed GSD's I can't think  of
> anyone.  I remember a blue born one time about 10 years ago,   and the
> occasional long coat, but thats about it.   Are there  certain lines that do
> produce this?  What about German lines,   does it happen in them?  Inquiring
> minds want to  know!
> 
> 
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