I could not agree with you more Christine. It is a sad state of affairs we are in right now. It was suppose to be about breeding better dogs not electing popular people. Sandi Card ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Grainger" <hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Kathaleen Strong" <inflight2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 1:46 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Smoke and Mirrors! > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Kathaleen Strong <inflight2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Date: 10/8/2005 12:01:20 PM > > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Smoke and Mirrors! > > To date...Steve and I have refrained from stating our positions on what has > to be one of the most sophomoric campaigns in the history of this club. > Before anyone blasts Kathaleen for her below post...remember..she is not > running for the Board...she is not showing a dog..in essence she has > nothing to gain..however..she is putting herself on the line by being an > advocate for finding out just exactly what the truth is. Her post may be > long( just as mine is)..but take time to read it..especially point #7...I > will add to it...just exactly what would make someone sell their soul for a > position in a dog club...what is their to be gained?Folks..we live in a > country of 250+ million people.and this is a blasted dog club...tell that > at a cocktail party that you are on the Board of a dog club and..guests > will smile politely..say 'that' nice" and go on discussing things that are > really important in this world. Maybe its about finishing more dogs..or > going Select or GV..surely not...it would be much easier to breed a good > dog than to do all the digging and investigating and distributing all the > hurt and pain that it takes to smear some ones reputation.Certainly the > selling of ones soul couldn't be relegated to a dog show win. Perhaps its > judging a National..maybe if you win a Board position..or an office..and > are part of the so called "movers and shakers" you think you will judge a > National(for the first time or again)..Seems like it would be again easier > to just breed( or continue to breed ) great dogs..and gain the respect of > your peers, but perhaps that takes a bit more work than some are willing to > put into the breed..selling your soul is a much quicker route...So you tell > me candidates, current leadership ..what is it? what exactly does make > people sell their souls? what is so important that a relatively unknown > person.would allow themselves to used as a vehicle in a smear campaign..let > themselves be raked over the coals without apparent personal"gain"..to > attempt to discredit candidate? I shudder to think how this person..and > those she associates with conducts themselves in their everyday lives. I am > certain if we wanted to take the time..we could find out all kinds of > little "nasties" that aren't matters of public record.So those doing the > finger pointing..are your slates totally clean?...or are you banking on > just not being "found out?" Bottom line..what is so blasted important about > holding a position in this club..that the fear of losing that power causes > people to lose all concept of right and wrong.and.why are so many > threatened by a distribution or change of that power? sometimes I am a bit > slow on the uptake, but I sure as Hell can't figure it out!! Finally, Steve > and I became part of the newly formed "mentoring" program.So I > ask..candidates, current leadership.and puppets..you tell me...how am I > supposed to look a new person in the eye and encourage them to spend their > hard earned money joining this embarrassing GSDCA circus and the sport in > general? Does anyone else out there find it ironic that some of our breed's > most distinguishable traits are its > character..loyalty..courage..patience..and exercising a degree of > judgement? How is that a breed so marked with the aforementioned can have > human leadership that falls so miserably short in these areas? Please > explain....Christine and Steve Grainger > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Mr. Bunch has been the victim of the most malicious, underhanded > > electioneering I have ever seen in a Dog Club. I have my suspicions as to > > who is behind it... and IMO, it's a pretty easy one to read... > > > > 1) Which marionette posts to the list for the ex-officio all the time and > > who is this ex-officio? > > > > 2) Which marionette put up a website whose sole purpose was to put out > > public records in the attempt to ruin the reputation of Mr. Bunch and is > > also a member of the same ex-officio's local club? > > > > 3) Who promised a certain other working dog club's president a guaranteed > > seat on the Board if they relinquished their presidency so this person > could > > run unopposed for this other club? > > > > 4) Why was Mr. Bunch the recipient of mail sent to him through the US > POSTAL > > SERVICE threatening that if he ran for President his reputation would be > > ruined? > > > > 5) Who were the parties responsible for making the decisions for the past > > election-gate that took place? > > > > 6) Which board members become extremely defensive to the Nth degree > whenever > > they are questioned for simple basic facts? > > > > 7) ****WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS CLUB*** that people would stoop as low as > > they have this year to avoid anyone who is NOT in their control from being > > elected?????????????? > > > > Question 7 is not innuendo or a smoke screen... it is something that needs > > to be addressed by every single member when they vote. > > > > > > > ============================================================================ > > POST is Copyrighted 2005. 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