In a message dated 2/17/2005 11:30:07 AM Mountain Standard Time, kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Afghan hounds are decidedly * NOT* stupid!! See? That's why I hate these so-called intelligence tests! Are they testing raw canine intelligence or trainability/drive? Because there is a difference. Really intelligent breeds such as many of the hounds are often not very trainable. They are so smart, they just don't see the point! ----------------------------------- There was only one problem on the dog IQ test, to my recollection, that assessed ANYTHING at all to do with trainability, and that was only how many repititions it took before the dog "got it". The rest of the problems dealt with things like finding a cookie...the dumbest dog in the world still wants a cookie, but is it going to be able to find it--even when it was shown where it was? It has nothing to with training or having "slavish devotion" to a master. If you don't like it, that's fine it's up to you, I only sent it for fun, but I for one am very glad that my dogs are intelligent AND trainable. Liz in Utah Visit my website at http://hometown.aol.com/rckyiizard/index.html ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================