Thanks for clarifying this D.D. - In Canada the CKC official breed standard wording on missing teeth is very different. It reads: "While missing premolars are frequently observed, complete dentition is decidedly to be preferred." And so our breed standard allows for a little more forgiveness of missing 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th premolars. Then, in the "evaluation of faults" section, it goes on to specify parameters, in the "Serious Fault" category. It reads: "more than four missing premolars or any other missing teeth, unless due to accident" So for Canadian exhibitors and Judges at shows in the U.S.A. - and in the reverse for U.S.A. exhibitors and judges in Canada, the expression "when in Rome..." comes to mind. Thanks, Jack -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cudjoegsd Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 11:53 AM To: showgsd-l Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Slight correction to Evan`s post!!!!!! In his last post Evan commented on missing teeth: <<<As a judge, I can't remember the last time I saw a missing tooth. Also, the standard calls anything other than missing pre-molars a serious fault. That always meant to me, that missing pre-molars was not a serious fault. I would not fault to any great degree a missing pre-molar. So, having said that, I will probably get all the dogs with missing teeth the next time I judge. If they are great in other respects, bring them on.<<<< The Standard actually states "Any teeth other than FIRST premolars is a serious fault". As a retired oral surgeon, I could not let that erroneous comment slip past without a correction. No offense intended, Evan. D.D. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================