I hate to sound ignorant, but sometimes the only way we learn is to fess up and admit our short comings. I've never heard the term "slab sided" GSDs before - what does it mean? Does anyone have any pictures of a "slab-sided" GSD? Thanks for any information you all can provide to educate me!!! Gayle & the Hooligans! http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=6&uid=4294023 - Link to The Hooligans Albums -- <cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Everyone, How severely are slab-sided(SS) dogs penalized in the confirmation ring? Do SS dogs have a greater risk of bloat/torsion or developing other health problems? (I know that SS horses may suffer stamina problems since their lungs can't fully expand.) Should a SS dog be bred? If so, do you breed to a dog with normal, well-sprung ribs or to a dog with ribs that are more than ideally sprung, not barrel-chested, but leaning in that direction? (I'm sure it's much more complicated than that.) I'm a newbie and any help will be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance for answering my questions. Paulette McGuirt ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================