totally true- I ( on my soap box) changed the subject matter line- in an answer to Laurie. EPI is so devastating to anyone as a breeder or an owner and for the dogs themselfs. Since Texas A&M says it is primarly genetic, I do not believe most of us even knew enough about EPI to ask if a stud dog had produced an EPI off spring.(which at this time is the only known way to know if that animal is a carrier) Nor do I believe stud dog owners knew enough about EPI to ask themselfs. And the same is true of the bitches we bred to these dogs. Now here we sit with a healthy dog or bitch from known carriers and don't know if our animal is a carrier or if they may latter come down with EPI itself. We certainly don't want to knowingly spread a problem. As Gary Lewis said, he elimanated 3 generations of breeding to ensure he did the right thing by the breed. Education is vital to getting this under control. I personally know several breeders this has affected in a major way and none of us knew the other one had the problem. Until there is a test to identify EPI, education on the subject is the only way I know for us to make informed decisions. Joan Turner ************** New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================