I've been kind of watching the discussion about the WUSV in 2013 coming and it is really hard to explain the differences between the shows and the trials. The only real similarity between the the Sieger show and the WUSV is there are large numbers of people there. There really is no other similarity. While there is the long bite the trial doesn't even have the attack on the handler anymore. I started thinking how could it be explained and thought the only way is to suggest those who want to know go to the WDA Nationals. That will give you an idea on a small scale of what to expect with the WUSV. I came from AKC background so I know how hard it is to equate to AKC events. I can't and I've been involved with SV style shows/trials since about 93. Just a thought/suggestion for those who want to know. The other thing is to try even one of the regional trials. You just cant know unless you've been there. Regards, Micky Adams http://www.imaginationframedphotography.com http://www.newbeginningspottery.com "Those without a sense of humor are at the mercy of the rest of us." "Life is too short to wake up with regrets" ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================