The first thing you might consider is a different vet. Perhaps there arebreeders in that area who could recommend one who knows what he is doing. Carolyn --- On Sat, 12/25/10, Elaine George <bruiser@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Elaine George <bruiser@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Sick Dog? Need Advice To: "Showgsd-L" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Saturday, December 25, 2010, 4:26 PM AS some of you know we also do German Shepherd Rescue. We recently got back a dog we had placed over two years ago, when we first started. I had him in the kennel for about two weeks. I found him to be very smart, eager to please and of sound temperment. We placed him a week ago and we just got the following e-mail from the people who adopted him. "I am really worried about Oliver, I spent $130.00 on him to go to the vet. We thought he had a ear infection, he was and still is acting crazy, he cries and in a deep sleep, he will get straight up and run around and bite at him self and does a lot of AIR BITING, and he is going to hurt himself, he will bash into things, he act's like something is hurting him or biting himself. We took him to the vet, ear's are clear, and he had a bath and frontline on him all bedding was washed before he used anything and crate was washed out. I love him and Freda and him get along, but when he runs out of his cage in the middle of the night, it ends up spooking her and everyone else and he does this all day. What is causing this, I don't want to loose another dog, is he having seizures? They had to sedate Oliver and put a muzzle on him, he got mad at the Doc for checking in his ear's and wouldn't let us help him, so had to sedate him and even coming around, she tried to clip his nails and he tried to bite all of us through this whole mess. She told us to try Benadryl too on Oliver, to see if it is allergies, then we have to go back, because he is not doing better. Do you have any ideal what might be causing this?" I saw nothing during this time that indicated any kinf do g problem while he was here. They do have another GSD, Freda and she seems to be doing fine. They came to us for Oliver because they had just lost their older male during a teeth cleaning(?). Freda would just lay around and wouldn't eat so they decided to get a playmate for her. I'll forward replies to them. Thanks, -Bob George Enchanted Vista, Home of: CH Rocknoll Ajax Nike Clayfield CD, RN, Alkay's Black Velvet, CH Jerrwen's Southern Belle, BISS, CH Jerrwen's Georgiana HIC, Hi Dreams Allegra v. Regency, BISS, RBIM, CH Enchanted's American Anthem TC, CH Enchanted's Big Gun v. Sunfarms HIC, Enchanted's Double Take, and Enchanted Vista's Lone Star. Jim-Sina's Raven, TC Member, GSDCA, ELPGSDC, CNMGSDC ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================