In a message dated 5/19/2005 9:56:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, holly@xxxxxxxxx writes: Which can we discuss? I'm very lucky I have a handler who grooms for me, I just show up to a show with a clean dog and she fluffs for me but I'd love to learn more. I'll also ask her. Holly Derry, NH This is a fun subject:) My handlers groom too, but....I noticed early on that owners would be standing around with a clean dog waiting for their handler to do it, and the dogs would get groomed and fluffed alright but it just made more sense to me to work on it at home, get good at it, bring my own stuff to the shows, spend all the time in the world I wanted to on MY dog and hand the handler a freshly groomed dog right when it's time for them to go in. Nobody has ever complained when I've done that <VBG>. Long before my dogs even get to a show, I'm fooling with shampoos and spray bottles, smoothing cowlicks, sculpting feet (where would I be without a grinder???). It's a given that there hasn't been a perfect dog born yet, so I learned to stand back with a critical eye, see what I wanted more of or less of; fluff here, take hair away there, brush up over here, slick down there....etc. In order to do that ("fix something") AND to highlight the outstanding merits of a particular dog, IMO you need an honest assessment of the dog...and practice! You need to know what shampoo, volumizer and/or shine product works best on a particular coat. Does your dog look better bathed two days before the show, the day before or soaked to the skin the morning of? ...and that can change with the time of year and/or at different times in a bitch's cycle. I just get itchy to fix things when I see a bunch of dogs all blown up like wood ticks without thought to whatever it is than could have been "fixed" or made to look not so obvious with a little time, product and know-how:)))) Does anybody remember the Lamar tape with him talking about a metal comb and a spray bottle <G>? You just can't do all that in a few minutes the day of the show, and realistically, I don't expect my handler to do it when they are showing a bunch of other dogs. ....besides, it gives me something to do and calms my nerves <G>. Kathy three generations of Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================