Exactly. There is showable and finishable. As far as I'm concerned the only way to buy a guaranteed finishable dog is to buy one with a CH before his/her name! Too many things can go wrong......... I CAN tell you that, with the quality in the ring at that moment, I could finish it. Thats based on how many shows I'm willing to go to, how much money I'm willing to spend, which handler I'm willing to hire, what time of the year it is - local shows VS travel, WHICH judges are doing those shows, etc. For instance, our local AB shows may have specialty judges doing the Breed/Group or it could be someone who is afraid of GSDs, a judge who adores sables or someone, in say Afghans, who think they are washed out black and tans and fault them on their color (something I actually had happen). Personally, when I sell a pup I will guarantee you it is healthy when it leaves my home, has had all shots, sound temperament, and showable because it has no disqualifying faults. Finisha ble has a whole other SUBJECTIVE meaning! Spending thousands of dollars on a puppy who doesn't even have his/her permanent teeth in yet is crazy! JMO Suzanne www.tsalishepherds.com Home of Ch Firedog, Ch Cookie, Ch Flair, BIS/BISS Ch Yancy, Ch Flash, and Lil' Miss Dancer!! Website updated 05/05 ...you buy a dog for big $ and you show it...it costs money to show a dog, thats just a fact of showing dogs......what do you consider big $??? To me showable means no disqualifying faults... you can show any dog you want as long as it has no disqualifying faults. > > Patty Szymczak > www.pagairsgsd.com > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================