In a message dated 7/24/2005 12:20:43 PM Central Daylight Time, Pinehillgsds writes: Ann Arundle just did; Jackie Raynor. Southern NJ did too, about a year ago; nice enough fellow, his name escapes me now (long name)...maybe someone from SNJ could remind us. ****************************************************************************** ************************** Very few do. I would not consider Jackie Raynor as AB judge. I do all herding and some working but I bred and showed GSds. Does this make me an AB judge in your mind I certainly get better entries at AB than say a judge that may have bred poodles. Lee ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================